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 Post subject: HED Jet 4 Plus
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:44 pm 
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With all of the talk about even the best carbon clinchers not being good for the mountains due to heat issues, I have started to give another look at something like the Hed Jet 4 Plus. This way I could have a set of wheels with good aero capabilities along with the more proven reliability of an aluminium rim so that heat issues are no longer an issue. The new, wider 25mm rim is another bonus.

I had also considered the Zipp 30 and 60. But the 30 is too shallow while the 60 too deep. I prefer the mid-range of the 4 Plus. As well, I have a love / hate relationship with Zipp. I also considered the Dura Ace 35 and 50, but I wanted the ability to use either Campagnolo or a Shimano drivetrain. So the Jet 4 Plus became quite attractive when all is said and done.

However, I can't seem to find many reviews of these wheels. Does anyone here have experience with them? If so, what are your opinions, positive or negative.

Also, is it possible to get the Jet 4 Plus as a rim-only. I read in the Stinger thread that it can be difficult to get rims from Hed and I have thus far been unable to locate them anywhere online.


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 Post subject: Re: HED Jet 4 Plus
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:38 pm 
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HED won't sell you rims. Have to send wheel for rebuild ( price …. don't ask ) .

As everywhere, there's stuff "equal" and "more equal" ( G.Orwell order ;) ) - HED is just equal… That's why you won't see so much "yay!" and "wow!" about Hed's wheels in net…

I don't have "jets" , but "beat" in cx bike C2 rims on DT hubs at places considered by many as singletrack, not cx course - ZERO issues. Build with 0.05mm tolerance hold it perfectly ( checked today, and I'm "lightweight 85kg" ;) ). I've never seen so nice made alu rims … and so easy to build.

Ardennes are my next tubular wheels for cyclocross :) - no doubts here .

( C2 is same platform for Ardennes, C2 Belgium rims and Jet wheels )

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 Post subject: Re: HED Jet 4 Plus
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:59 am 
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They look very nice, only thing is, they are heavy - 1.734 grams a pair. That´s pretty much for a wheelset for the mountains.


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 Post subject: Re: HED Jet 4 Plus
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:56 am 
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HED will sell you the rims, but they are incredibly difficult to get a hold of ( by special order only. ). they also will not warranty any wheels that are not built by them, so if you build them yourself you're out of luck. I can understnad why because fairing wheels are finicky creatures. in my experience they do require a tad more maintenence in checking even spoke tension.

HED are decent wheels. you probably don't hear too much about them because distribution and marketing wise they are a pretty small company when you look at competitors like zipp, easton, shimano, etc. HED are one of the companies bike teams with no wheel sponsors often turn to when buying wheels ( see old HTC highroad and euskatel euskadi on HED wheels). more than good enough for amatuers like you and me


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 Post subject: Re: HED Jet 4 Plus
PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:48 pm 
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Thanks for the responses.

I've always wondered why HED doesn't get more pub, but the "equal, but not as equal" arguement makes perfect sense. Especially for something like the Jet 4 Plus as it's not a full carbon clincher, and therefore not as sexy, even though the C2 rim platform is really nice.

I like the idea of having the aero without the drawback of worrying about a heat related failure with the sexier full carbon clincher. I also like the ability to run the 4 Plus in a tubeless setup with a proper rim strip. The price differential doesn't hurt either.

I flip back and forth between doing a custom wheel build around the Jet 4 Plus and Chris King R45 hubs or just playing it safe with a set of Campagnolo Shamal 2-Way wheels. I have heard that the Shamals have good aero for their profile, but never seen any data confirming such. I don't know how they compare to the Jet 4's, but I would imagine that the Jet 4's are going to triumph quite handily there.

The trade-off with regard to weight is another story. Just a question of weighing the pros and cons of each. The Hed aren't as sexy, but they just might be much more versatile overall despite the 210g weight different (1650 v 1440).


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 Post subject: Re: HED Jet 4 Plus
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 Post subject: Re: HED Jet 4 Plus
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:06 pm 
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davidalone wrote:
HED will sell you the rims, but they are incredibly difficult to get a hold of ( by special order only. ).


Are you absolutely sure, that Hed will sell to private person Jet/ Stinger rim ? …. :shock: They don't sell rims ( exc "belgium" ) to … anyone. In case of clients rim damage ( not under warranty ) - client have to send to Hed damaged wheel, and Hed will rebuild it at very high price. They do not warrant ANY wheel didn't build by themselves.


I can be wrong, and I'm sure that you can prove it ;) copy od bill will be enough.

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