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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:41 pm 
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hello evrybody. i am looking for a reliable hub, to fit 18 spokes, with storng flange, that will hendel hige spoke tension. i prefer smooth rolling and long lasting hub agints light one. the price i'm wiling to spend is 200 euro's or so.
thank you all/
(sorry for my poor English and spelling)


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There is no way to lace a 18 hole hub in a conventional pattern. The number of spokes on a rear wheel needs to be a even number. You can do a 18 hole using a 2 to 1 lacing pattern it is what Campy does with the G3 wheels.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:50 am 
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apperently you right. i need a 16 hole rear hub :?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:29 pm 
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I used standard 32 hole Ultegra hubs for my 16 spoke carbon tubular wheelset. But I guess you're looking for a solution that looks better since you are willing to spend that kind of money.


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I think Hope and Royce will both produce drillings to order


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:10 pm 
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Actually, I'm using right now a shimano 600 ultegra hub with 32 spokes, and the issue is that I'm afraid of a flange failure. The only reason I'm willing to spend 200 euros, is that I couldn't fiend are libel nice hub with that low drilling at a lower price, cheers.
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The hub should be shimano compatible


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:32 pm 
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I have a 16 hole zipp rim and am using with 32 hole hub. But I'm not afraid of flange strenght as both sides are 1x - which with a 16 hole setup and the way I laced it has spoke angles coming off the hub nearly similar to a 3x. The flanges are laced with 2 spokes back to to back then two holes skipped then 2 spokes.

To top it off I used bladed spokes so I was able to lace all on the drive side head in and all on the non drive head out. This effectively helped the issue of dish by slightly increasing the tension on the nondrive and slightly lower on drive side.

Did the same for the front except all spoke heads face out on both flanges.


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If you really prefer smooth rolling and long lasting to weight, then you really can't beat the Chris King, they will custom drill anything you want. And they aren't really that heavy, especially for how well they work. The rear one on my trials bike is now over 10years old. Its faded but still runs perfectly.

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I had a 16 hole White Industries hub that was laced to a Lew rim. I am sure they would still make a 16 hole hub for you.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:07 pm 
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as far as i know, the wi-kew hubs for 16 spokes are only front, arent they?
and the chris hub is abut 350 euro's in israel.


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 Post subject: Re: Here was my solution
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:12 am 
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tommasini wrote:
I have a 16 hole zipp rim and am using with 32 hole hub. But I'm not afraid of flange strenght as both sides are 1x - which with a 16 hole setup and the way I laced it has spoke angles coming off the hub nearly similar to a 3x. The flanges are laced with 2 spokes back to to back then two holes skipped then 2 spokes.

To top it off I used bladed spokes so I was able to lace all on the drive side head in and all on the non drive head out. This effectively helped the issue of dish by slightly increasing the tension on the nondrive and slightly lower on drive side.

Did the same for the front except all spoke heads face out on both flanges.


have you got a picture of this. I tried doing something similar except i endded up with a polygon shaped wheel instead of a circle.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:34 am 
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This is the 16 spoke arrangement mentioned earlier. Note that on the rear it takes 4 different lenghts of spokes versus the normal two. That's due to the orientation of the spoke holes not being just perfect for the intended alignment to the 16 holes in the rim.


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