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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:36 am 
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Nice. I'll try it.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:13 pm 
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Hi,

dbordewisch wrote:
I tried these two:

http://www.liftoffinc.com/product-tape-remover.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.liftoffinc.com/product-paint ... emover.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm not sure which one works best I was also interested in this one, http://www.liftoffinc.com/product-sealant-remover.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; , it was not stocked by the Lowe's I went to. I'm really glad to use something that is not so potentially harmful or dangerous.


Maybe it's worthwhile to ask the manufacturer what they think would be their best suited product to remove rim cement?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:38 am 
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Hi,

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Haven't tried that Schwalbe glue remover. Maybe I'll give it a shot.


Well, it definitely does work.
Since I can't seemed to find any specific instructions for using it I generously brushed it on half the rim and left it to do its magic overnight.
Next day I could wipe 95% of the old cement off with a rag. Did the other half of the rim and so on.
It's a blue (Schwalbe IS blue) gel like, odourless liquid. As there are no safety warnings anywhere I assume it is safe to use without further precautions.

Even with cement mixed in it wipes off real easy, its not sticky at all. Give it a shot and let us know what you think. :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:49 am 
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After one season on Conti glue, I have to say it works very very well for me. Quick to glue with only minimal curing time for the layers, a strong bond, and when tearing off the tyre the rim bed is essentially clean. Although I have an unopened tin of Mastik, I'll stick to Conti for the time being.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:45 pm 
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Conti is terrible and won't work, all I'm saying is that Vittoria is better.

I know guys that insist on using auto trim adhesive. I personally used Clement red glue for years and years. Hell, every grand tour has been won using glue that none of us would ever dream of trying.

Conti glue will certainly do the job.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:58 pm 
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Hi,

The main issue I have with Conti cement (and its derivatives) is that is does not have the self-healing properties of Vittoria's Mastik One.
IOW, if it lets go you'll be facing an avalanche type effect and the tubular will roll off the rim.

This is what it should be like:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:03 pm 
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What are Conti cement's derivatives?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:21 pm 
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Hi,

Other brands that market the same (rebranded ?) or an attempt at copying based on the original Contintal's rim cement.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:24 pm 
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And those brands are?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:40 pm 
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Hi,

Schwalbe's rim cement would be one of those.

Any more questions? :P

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:11 pm 
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Oh. I thought the Schwalbe cement was taken from the Vittoria blueprint.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:51 am 
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Hi,

It doesn't look like it.
It cures almost as fast as Conti's but it spreads quite easily though. It's not bad at all. Somewhat inbetween the two major brands overall, I'd say.
All in all it's not that surprising seeing Schwalbe is in direct competition with Continental.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:40 pm 
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Ok so I've read most of the way through this thread- love the intricacies of using tubulars. I'm currently strictly clincher but looking into getting a decent pair of tubular wheels.

One query- I've seen it mentioned a few times that you can use old clincher rims to stretch out new tubular tires. Does this work well or is it just ok?

The reason I ask is clearly I'm going to want a spare or two and if I only have my new awesome set of tub wheels stretching spares is going to be difficult. OR are there cheap tub rims avaliabe for say £20 without spokes I could invest in to have a set going at all times?

Trying to figure how much this is going to eat into my wallet once I get going - I think I've got the bug and I'm not even using them yet.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:09 pm 
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Welcome.

In my personal experience (and I'm from 'Cowtown', where Hockey is the sport...except during Rodeo season), the best place to get them is the old LBS. Even here we have a shop that has been around since the '60s (I needed a bolt for an old Super Record first model derailleur. They had it in stock...). The basement will probably be filled with used tubular rims that they will probably be happy to get rid of...


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:07 pm 
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depending on which tyres you are going for, you may not need to stretch them

fwiw i've found i can fit veloflex carbon fine without stretching, i think others reported the same


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