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Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:40 pm
by pk0r
No problem with posting the pic Andy - the eventual copyright infringement as posted elsewhere is no problem as it for sure is our own property with me having provided it myself.
I do not want to go any more info on the project just yet, as I think there currently are more imminent projects that deserve the complete focus, such as especially our Morpheus crankset. The presentation can thus only be seen as teaser or appetizer, just as happened similarly with the Morpheus last Interbike. Personally I think we did well there with the proceeding (development, teaser, refinement, launch) and would like to keep it relatively similar here also.

As Ypsylon already said we intend on releasing info on weights and stiffness on each available size in due time - why is yet to be seen..
Size S obviously refers to small there, but is still a regular 28" road bike.

To not give room for baseless discussion: the main focus has in fact been to be building a real race bike, not merely some lightweight show thingy. That also includes (but is not limited to) appropriate stiffness and durability. The frame in the picture for instance is lighter than any currently available stock (or custom) frame and sports a higher stiffness than for instance that of the over here popular C.. bikes (be it the "German" C or the American C).
As said more in due time.

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:59 pm
by GonaSovereign
pk0r wrote:The frame in the picture for instance is lighter than any currently available stock (or custom) frame and sports a higher stiffness than for instance that of the over here popular C.. bikes (be it the "German" C or the American C).
As said more in due time.


How about the Canadian C? :)

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:59 pm
by Weenie

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Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:12 pm
by gumgardner
My only suggestion is to provide us with accurate weights or you'll get hunted down by the weenie patrol (see "Guru Photon") :wink:

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:21 pm
by djconnel
kavitator wrote:ok 580g sound OK...but for what stiffnes?


Geesh, I'm tired of the stiffness weenies spoiling all the fun.

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:24 pm
by worstshotever
Ya, almost as bad as the aero weenies.

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:41 pm
by gumgardner
...or the money weenies. this stuff is gonna cost a lot. we all know that

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:49 pm
by record
come on guys, nothing beats fashion weenies and another "what bartape color suits my bike best?" topics.

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:51 pm
by coloclimber
This looks and sounds very promising from a company as strong as AX.

That bike needs internal Di2 though :mrgreen:

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:32 pm
by cerro
Wow, I want this after coloclimber built it up with the right stuff. :) Half the weight of my American C

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:07 pm
by strobbekoen
Building a very light and stiff frame with carbon is very possible. Add the properties comfort + stiffness in the right places + durable and it's another equation. I don't think all those properties can be combined into a 580g frame.

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:29 pm
by 2 wheels
GonaSovereign wrote:How about the Canadian C? :)

The Canadian C is now the Swiss C, they moved their headquaters to Switzerland a couple of years ago.

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:07 pm
by seanw17
Am I right in thinking this complete (pretty much) Ax bike would weigh in at around 4300g in small?

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:22 am
by GonaSovereign
2 wheels wrote:
GonaSovereign wrote:How about the Canadian C? :)

The Canadian C is now the Swiss C, they moved their headquaters to Switzerland a couple of years ago.

No, I meant the Canadian C, Cannondale.

Kidding.

Cervelo is as Canadian as ever, even if the bean counters are in Neuchatel. Just like Cannnondale isn't Canadian even though it's owned by[edit] not Procycle, but Dorel.[/edit]

Now back to the AX bike...

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:03 am
by djconnel
seanw17 wrote:Am I right in thinking this complete (pretty much) Ax bike would weigh in at around 4300g in small?


Versus my bike, I'd say the frame saves 180 grams, the fork 120 grams, the components 150 grams, the seatpost around 30 grams, the stem 15 grams, the handlebar 70 grams, the cassette -60 grams (Red versus Recon), the crankset 100 grams, the chainrings 30 grams. The Let's see..... yes, close to 4300.

Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:03 am
by Weenie

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Re: ax-lightness frame with 580gr?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:21 am
by xnavalav8r
OMG!!!!! :shock:

My wife will kill me for even thinking this, but maybe this isn't the year to buy a house... I could use my bonus for one of these. :twisted:

Where's the smiley face with all the drool running out of its mouth? :noidea: