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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:40 pm 
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Part 1).

Any one knows of something lighter than the standard Veloplugs to cover rim-bed holes for clinchers?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:55 pm 
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3m strapping tape cut to size


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:56 pm 
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Clingwrap.
(you didn't specify if it would work or notImage)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:59 pm 
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synchronicity wrote:
Clingwrap.
(you didn't specify if it would work or notImage)


Well it sort of has to work :D


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:31 pm 
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mofo wrote:
3m strapping tape cut to size


Which one?

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Manufacturing/Industry/Product-Catalog/Online-Catalog/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECFTDQGLE0_nid=37Q2HZ60G9beTRGGC52N4Mgl


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:39 pm 
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While as an industry person lawyers will keep us from making any recommendation to use something in a manner for which it is not approved. I will however say that I've seen quite a few people use two layers of 865 with no complaints. In my opinion 2 layers of Rox is a better choice, though not as inexpensive. Several people like to mix the two as well. They'll cut the 865 into 1" pieces and put one over each hole and then use one layer of Rox on top of them. Me, I like the C4 tape. Heavier than veloplugs or Rox, but lighter than Velox and one of the most durable we've found.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:21 am 
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madcow made the summation, 865, two strips perpendicular with some of course beyond the spoke hole circumference. I've also tried the veloplugs with a 3m strip across. Both setups worked well, I would however check on the setup now and again.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:50 am 
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how much lighter would the 3M setup be compared to veloplugs?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:10 pm 
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Part 2:

yes there's something lighter-non standard Veloplugs :-).
I recently had a wheelset built with Edge 45 clincher rims. I wanted to keep the weight quite low so I wasn't really pleased with the solution of putting Edge rim tape on to cover the spoke holes. I knew that Edge rims have rather big holes so the yellow Veloplugs wouldn't snap into place unless some glue would be applied-as some ww-members did, but I didn't like the idea of the glue so I tried this:
I took my soldering iron and put three holes in each of the plugs.
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I saved a total of 29 grams over a already pretty light rim tape.
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It's not really about the weight saving, but about the fact that that way the yellow Veloplugs work with the Edge clinchers.
And of course the weightsaving happens at a importand place-at the periphery of the rims which is the best place to save weight and hey,after all it's weightweenies :-).


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Very nice! I have red Veloplugs in my American Classic Sprint 350's :beerchug:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:57 am 
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el condor,

Fantastic idea :thumbup: I also have Edge 1.45 clinchers and i didn't like the idea of using glue either.
I used a big phillips head screw driver to flair out the yellow Veloplugs and that worked perfectly.

I'll be doing some soldering tonight :)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:29 pm 
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pawnii wrote:
el condor,

Fantastic idea :thumbup: I also have Edge 1.45 clinchers and i didn't like the idea of using glue either.
I used a big phillips head screw driver to flair out the yellow Veloplugs and that worked perfectly.

I'll be doing some soldering tonight :)


Hi Pawnii,

it works well, have some hundred km's so far without any issues. Make sure that the tip of the soldering iron is quite pointy, leave about 1mm of distance to the plug head so it can be put flush with the rim surface since the thickness of the carbon is about 1mm.
You may have to snap some of the plastic around the melted hole away so it want get stuck between the plug head and the rim.
After I put all of the plugs in, I checked if they were all flush, some may not-(in my case only 2), take em out and snap the jammed plastic away.
Let me know how it went.
Cheers
Pascal


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