I gotta say that I rode my 2002 Ghisallo for years without complaint and I go up to 190lbs after the long winter. My main beef was with the Ouzo Pro fork. The frame tracked noticibly better after I replaced it with an EC90SL and gave it 3mm more rake. I traded up to an Archon T1 wich is noticeably stiffer, but I'm not sure this makes me any faster, and I know it makes long bumpy rides a little less cushy.
I kinda miss that Ti springyness. If I ever long for a truely weenie build I'd give the Ghisallo another shot.
Litespeed Ghisallo - no more production
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I don't mean to be Killing anyone!...
Hey it's all relative. Herberts a bigger guy and has no problem at all. I'm a smaller guy who's had any number of stiffer bikes that I prefer that also had very good comfort. Relative to a lot of performance oriented bikes, the Ghisalo was simply a flexy bike...
I'm not a fan of overly stiff bikes for sure. I've said it plenty of times that I think too much emphasis is on stiffness now and it's making for bikes that are a weak minded marketing guy's dream (to be able to quote a number and act as if people ride a calculator). But the Ghisalo was on the opposite end of "too stiff" and not what I would call middle of the road. Over the different editions that mark moved around a bit but it was never a bike that I wouldnt put below medium stiffness (bottom 25% of performance oriented bikes) leaning to a degree that a lot of people would find too flexy. That doesnt mean it didnt have it's fans or that some folks wouldnt disagree.
Hey it's all relative. Herberts a bigger guy and has no problem at all. I'm a smaller guy who's had any number of stiffer bikes that I prefer that also had very good comfort. Relative to a lot of performance oriented bikes, the Ghisalo was simply a flexy bike...
I'm not a fan of overly stiff bikes for sure. I've said it plenty of times that I think too much emphasis is on stiffness now and it's making for bikes that are a weak minded marketing guy's dream (to be able to quote a number and act as if people ride a calculator). But the Ghisalo was on the opposite end of "too stiff" and not what I would call middle of the road. Over the different editions that mark moved around a bit but it was never a bike that I wouldnt put below medium stiffness (bottom 25% of performance oriented bikes) leaning to a degree that a lot of people would find too flexy. That doesnt mean it didnt have it's fans or that some folks wouldnt disagree.
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Sorry Pez. I didn't mean anything by the comment. You're one of my favorite posters and your opinion holds more weight (in my opinion) than most others. I was just disappointed you don't love my bike above all others.
I know. Hell at the end of the day I shoulda just shut up anyway. It's like speaking ill of a recently passed freind!
it's ok Pez the Ghisalo is just retired-not dead!
For certain parts stiffer is more important than lighter.