Sub 1000g wheelset for sub US$1000? - Ride report p12

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xnavalav8r
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by xnavalav8r

Since I am an incompetent wheel-builder I am having a friend (and superb mechanic) build my wheels for me. He is adamant that I use Wheelsmith double-butted spokes and alloy nipples vice Sapim or DT. While I don't need bladed spokes for a climbing wheel, it seems these are significantly heavier. Should I go with his recommendation or buy my own spokes? Any advice?
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My guess is he is being conservative because he doesn't know the strength of the hoops themselves.

What's your height and weight?
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by xnavalav8r

I'm 5'10 and down to 158 lbs... hoping to lose a few more before race season.

Based on the claimed weight per spoke, I only see a 1.3 gram total savings by using CX-ray spokes verus the Wheelsmith DB15. For the cost saving I can live with that.

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good to see someone has these things built up. Whenever you get some mileage on them please post a report. I've been following this thread and would enjoy building up a set of these if they hold up. I don't see why they wouldn't...everything is made in China these days, the main reason these things are cheap is because they don't have a big name on them.
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in for some durability feedback

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I too have been looking into building up some of those "alibaba special" rims. I'm having trouble finding readily available lower spoke count (20f/24r) hubs that don't cost a bazillion dollars like tune or dt190s. I was actually trying to find something like the novatecs http://www.bdopcycling.com/Hubs-Road.asp I saw someone here used the soul hubs and they look great but still seem a little pricey for a budget build. Did anyone else out there come across an acceptable hubset while researching their builds? I work at a shop so if there is something that might be available through a distributor it would be a huge plus

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I'm getting a similar type of rim, unbranded from FFWD, and they are cheap compared to Edge 1.25 or the new AX rims. However, for hubs I'll probably go with Tune. Even though these are light-weight wheels, I want them to last quite a long time. Therefore, I don't mind spending more on the hubs.

As for spokes, are Sapim CX Rays better or Pillar Ti?
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@xnavalav8r

the wheels built up yet? If so, build list, final weight and ride report please!?!
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They haven't shipped yet. I've been in touch with the rep. They didn't have the 20-hole rim available to ship. I'm told they should ship this week now that the Chinese New Year holiday has passed. I've had good communication from the rep so I'm not worried yet. That and I purchased via PayPal so I know I have some buyer protection. But if they don't ship by Friday I will have to reconsider my position on these rims.... I'm only so patient.

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Don't worry, Chinese New Year basically shuts down Taiwan and China. I'm in Taiwan and it was miserable in Taipei. Rained the whole week while 80% of the stores were closed. Probably less, but it felt like that.

Everything opened again on Saturday.
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for those that have dealt with Alibaba/GOTOBIKE, how reliable are they?

that website is rather sketchy with poor organization and little info.

did you order over the phone? if not, how did you order?

why are the prices listed as such: "US400-700"???? why would the price vary so much?

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@transamman-
-as with all other chinese websites that have english versions, they are all sketchy since they dont bother to put all the info in it compared to the chinese version.
-ordered via alibaba contact form, theyll respond via email from then on, MOP is bank transfer (was lucky i share the same bank with them)
-prices would vary from sample prices up to production prices. they'll send a proforma invoice on the item you ordered with the exact price. a 700$ sample frame in 1 piece could be 400$ if ordered by a hundred.
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kwazi wrote:I too have been looking into building up some of those "alibaba special" rims. I'm having trouble finding readily available lower spoke count (20f/24r) hubs that don't cost a bazillion dollars like tune or dt190s. I was actually trying to find something like the novatecs http://www.bdopcycling.com/Hubs-Road.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I saw someone here used the soul hubs and they look great but still seem a little pricey for a budget build. Did anyone else out there come across an acceptable hubset while researching their builds? I work at a shop so if there is something that might be available through a distributor it would be a huge plus

Thanks


Has anyone used these Novatec hubs and are they any good and true to weight? Also would anyone know with a Reynolds Cirro rim and a standard alloy nipple be used backwards instead of the Reynolds locking nipple? Last question, how do you tension it?
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550-600$ 1350g 50mm wheelset with revos or aerolites.

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Juanmoretime wrote:Also would anyone know with a Reynolds Cirro rim and a standard alloy nipple be used backwards instead of the Reynolds locking nipple? Last question, how do you tension it?


I asked a similar question in the wheelbuilding thread and the concensus seems to be not to use standard nipples backwards. You can use Pillar nipples.

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