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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:48 am 
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Lots more riding done and I am really impressed with these wheels. I've gone up and down mountain roads, hopped curbs, blasted down rough dirt/gravel roads and they are still round and true despite my 180lb heft.
I really didn't mean to abuse them like this, thought I would baby/save them more but they just ride so nice.
My wheelbuilder is so impressed he's ordering some for his personal use.
The circus monkey rear hub started making nosie under load and needed lube on the pawls already, I would use different hubs if doing it again.


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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:22 am 
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Sounds like you scored for sure. Hopefully the paw's hold up under continued use.


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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:37 am 
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xnavalav8r wrote:
My wheels finally arrived!!!! I weighed them at 628gr rear and 438gr front. That's 1066 grams for the pair... 66 grams above target weight but WAY below budget.


I am a bit perplexed about the final weight. Summing the parts weights based on your FB pictures, I get 1018g...

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:15 pm 
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The spokes in the FB pictures were not used in the final build. They were the wrong length (too short) so lighter than the actual spokes used in the build. I think that's the difference.

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:07 pm 
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Well they have now been officially crash tested :shock:
Got my front wheel taken out by someone else and went down and smacked hard. Had to readjust my brakes, tweak the bars and very minor truing of the wheels. They barely needed any truing so I am quite impressed. No injuries, my first thought was, Dang... my wheels!
All good so far. :up:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:26 am 
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It doesn't get much better for testing than that, thanks for taking one for the team ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:46 pm 
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Just got home from a business trip last night. My tires were stretching on the rims all week. I put the first layers of glue on tires and rims and left them to dry overnight. Another coat today followed by installation and a day to cure. I'll ride them for the first time tomorrow.

Incidentally, with Carbon-ti skewers and a Token 12-23 cassette, the wheelset came in at exactly 1200 grams. That is still nearly 100 grams lighter than the Easton wheels I normally ride without cassette or skewers. Since these wheels will be for climbing I'm installing a pair of Vittoria Crono EVO 700x20C tires. They came in at 180 grams each. So total weight including tires will be under 1600 grams.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:18 pm 
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WOW! What a nice ride! I was only able to get an hour in, but I did it over some crappy, bumpy, rutted tarmac along the beach and didn't have any issues whatsoever. It could be the nice tires I am riding, but at 20mm I think they only contributed partially to the nice ride. These wheels are snappy, accelerate wonderfully, and brake at least es well as the Eastons I usually ride with. I'm currently using some Shimano composite brake pads but am looking at another alternative as these are nearly worn out.

While I admit, the finish on the brake track doesn't look quite as pretty as on some more expensive, name brand rims, I didn't feel any pulsing or abnormalities when braking. One thing I did notice as the wheels are so light is, when still in the stand, there is a noticable hop at the valve stem. The tire is smooth and even all around, as is the rim, but it seems the weight of the 42mm stem is enough to create a slight imbalance. I didn't feel it at all when riding but noticed it when the bike was hanging on the stand. In fact, both front and rear wheels came to rest valve stems down when left hanging on the workstand. I placed the speed sensor magnet opposite the valve stem on my rear wheel which seems to have mitigated things a bit. But after only a brief test ride this is the only nit to pick.

I've just come off 8 weeks of physical therapy for a knee injury so will be working back up to some longer rides and higher mileage. Stay tuned for a longer term ride report.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:37 am 
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farm_lim wrote:
barely made it. 997g. cost breakdown is rims 350$, hubs 250$, spokes/ nipples 180$.

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so going into my 5th month of usage (around 2500kms), heres my update on my sub1000$/ sub1kg build.
-never had to have the wheels retrued after the wheelbuild
-brake tracks are holding up well, no marks whatsoever on where the pads hit, just a slight shine compared to the bare carbon brake tracks (using mavic yellow by koolstop pads)
-soul (sean's) hubs are holding up wheel too! just increased noise from the freewheel compared to bnew, will repack with grease soon.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:42 pm 
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farm_lim, what spokes did you use?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:59 am 
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@prendrefeu, DT Aerolites.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:39 pm 
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So today I got my hands on a brand new pair of Tune hubs, Mig-45 and Mag-150. I wasn't really shopping for hubs but couldn't pass them up. I got them for such a good price I can build another set of these wheels for under $1000.00 and I am certain they will be under 1000 grams.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:11 am 
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@farm-lim what brand/model rims are those?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:13 pm 
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New North American group buy here:

My apologies to the weight weenies elsewhere, I just can't handle the logistics of a worldwide group buy.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:28 am 
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critracer26 wrote:
@farm-lim what brand/model rims are those?


rims are rm20t, same as the groupbuy. posted them previously, page3 of this thread.

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