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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:07 am 
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Great looking bike, I'm glad to hear how well it rides.

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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:42 am 
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I guess this is WW's so understandably the +200gr is all that people can talk about. But as you say you dont mind that and I wouldnt either with such a good looking bike. Excelent build that matches perfectly with those Reynolds wheels! :up: Now if only you could paint that red stripe on the 3T stem to match the frame! That would be perfection on wheels :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:43 am 
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if the thing is strong / well made / rides well / will be durable and weighs 1000g, then why dont BH say so? OK, I understand that weight is an important selling point with high-end bikes / frames but if they've done their research and found that the "best" frame they can put together for that market sector weighs 1000g then why not say so? if they think (as they must do) that an extra 200g makes for a better all round ride, then why not tell us why that is and leave it to us to make our decision based on that information? just plucking a fantasy figure out of the air might bag them a couple of sales from early adopters, but as soon as a post like this surfaces those that are motivated by weight (most people on WW) will spend their $$$ elsewhere.
they could have followed Cannondale's lead where they stopped quoting a weight and explained why that was; basically saying "pop down to your LBS, pick it up, test it, then decide". i have more respect for that approach than the fantasy weight one, even if the G5 is a great ride.


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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:53 am 
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I agree with marcusp.

Personally, when i am looking to buy a new frameset, one of the factors that carries the least weight with me is how much the frame weighs (pun intended). There are plenty of other areas to shave weight and the frame that takes my fancy needs to tick more boxes than just being under a certain weight. The frame is the heart of a bike and a very large contributor to the ride and handling. If you pick SRAM Red over Force, or 7900 over 6700 and lighter bars and stems you can often take off more weight than the difference between a light or 'heavy' frameset. Sure, people will argue that if you get light components AND a light frame then that's where it's at - but only if you're building it to weigh the bike and brag about it, or genuinely like the way some light bikes feel to ride...

A light wheelset 'feels' lighter than a few grams in a frameset - I completely understand anyone getting annoyed at the false claims to light weight, but this bike can hardly be called heavy...


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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:55 pm 
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Saw it today. Not really anything special IMO. It looks better on pics than in real life, and as it has a very glossy finish the matte Reynolds wheels does not fit that good. A set of Boras would look much better.


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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:33 pm 
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Bike companies weigh their bikes before painting. The difference between the weight quoted and the actual weight will always be a couple hundred grams, as paint is heavy. The BH is as advertised, as are most bikes. BH states clearly on their site that they weigh before painting.

I'm no BH shill, but I learned this myself when I weighed a bike that appeared to be overweight.


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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:07 am 
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marcusp wrote:
if the thing is strong / well made / rides well / will be durable and weighs 1000g, then why dont BH say so? OK, I understand that weight is an important selling point with high-end bikes / frames but if they've done their research and found that the "best" frame they can put together for that market sector weighs 1000g then why not say so? if they think (as they must do) that an extra 200g makes for a better all round ride, then why not tell us why that is and leave it to us to make our decision based on that information? just plucking a fantasy figure out of the air might bag them a couple of sales from early adopters, but as soon as a post like this surfaces those that are motivated by weight (most people on WW) will spend their $$$ elsewhere.
they could have followed Cannondale's lead where they stopped quoting a weight and explained why that was; basically saying "pop down to your LBS, pick it up, test it, then decide". i have more respect for that approach than the fantasy weight one, even if the G5 is a great ride.



Because the majority that can and will buy this frameset/bike are weight weenies...

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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:35 am 
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Good review.

Manufacturers can claim whatever they want, but at the end of the day, when I purchase a frame, I weight it in the shop beforehand. That in turn influences my decision. Doesn't work on the internet though!

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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:48 am 
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Mario Jr. wrote:
Saw it today. Not really anything special IMO. It looks better on pics than in real life, and as it has a very glossy finish the matte Reynolds wheels does not fit that good. A set of Boras would look much better.


Not to p**s on anyones bonfire, but I thought the same thing when I saw it.

It looks nice, but not THAT nice. It was next to a ´dale´supersix which had a finish that just blew the G5 away. Weight and colourscheme being of course much more important to this forum than things like how does it ride. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:32 pm 
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Leviathan, I kind of agree. I didn't spend enough time examining the bike though.

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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
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Do you happen to know if the BH G5 seatpost will work with the Fizik braided carbon rails?

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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
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In fact I thought Pinarello is hammered the most on this website for weight underclaiming.

spartan wrote:
why is everyone so hard on BH. most european brands always exaggerate on weights.


pinarello dogma $5500 super exotic carbon frame claimed weight is 850gm for a 54cm. in reality painted it weighs >1050. but no one is bitching. italians alway get a free pass


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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:21 pm 
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OLD THREAD.


Guys if you read back in this, take it as it comes. BH finish is better now on this bike than it was. No idea on weight.

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OLD THREAD.


I know it's old. I dug it up asking about an entirely different issue (using a fizik carbon railed saddle with the seatpost.)

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 Post subject: Re: My BH G5 Review !
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I will have to do a update of that review

The wheels are now Lightweight Standard III

As for the fizik I don't think it will be a Isues I have Carbon rails on the SLR but they are not as big as the Fizik. If the groove are to small it will be easy to file the aluminum of the clamp but I dont think that you will need to.


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