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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:56 am 
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i was wondering if anyone has an opinion on scott carbon road bikes. are they as good as they sound? is a specialized any good, which one would be better? thanks for the help.


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Both are made in the same factory in Taiwan by a company called Topkey.

www.topkey.com.tw for more information, including pics!

Both are quite nice, with the Scott being far lighter. I'm sure that many people on WW can vouch for this, but in my opinion they are far too commercialized for me.


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The search function will do wonders for you.

Anyway, never ridden one, but from what i hear from other riders, the cr1 rides very stiff, very light, very responsive. If you are seriously considering it, find one to testride.


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CR1 is the bomb! Not to say there isn't other great carbon frames out there, but there is none lighter that is as stiff and responsive as it is.

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danielgillett wrote:
Both are made in the same factory in Taiwan by a company called Topkey.

www.topkey.com.tw for more information, including pics!

Both are quite nice, with the Scott being far lighter. I'm sure that many people on WW can vouch for this, but in my opinion they are far too commercialized for me.



btw - if you visit that link, you'll find that Tokey has 5,000 employees in China and only 170 in Taichung. How they operate the production line in Taiwan is beyond me ;)

"Topkey production based in Xiamen are considered to be the most reliable carbon process manufacturer."

Xiamen ---> a province in China.

"The Production floor space: 3,000 square meter. capacity 60,000/ bike frame, 150,000 / fork & components in annual basis.

The Taiwan facility only has 2,629 sq meters of room. The Chinese facility in Xiamen has 65,032 sq meters. hmmmm which manufacturs the frames? ;)

"made in Taiwan" is basically something Taiwanese OEM stamp on their frames now a days as they shift manufacturing to the mainland because Taiwanese labour prices are less competitive. The biggest exception is Merida and Giant - both companies are large enough and have the technological investment to continue high-end in Taiwan, but how long? Too early to say, probably not sustainable.

As a believer of the consumer benefits offered by globalized economies - I don't think it matters where it is made (I'm not made in the USA myself but I live in the US), but it is sure amusing eh? :D :D :D

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this is one reason why I had difficultly believing superlite's theory that topkey made CR1. His best evidence came from a sheet of Q.C. inspection with Topkey stamped on it, but it was traditional chinese (which mainlanders aren't educated to use after the 50s~60s.)


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:14 am 
ShinyBaldy,

The point of my statement was that they came from the same manufacturer - You seem to be making too much note of wether it is made in China or Taiwan, when it is more or less irrelevant. Don't forget that they belong to the same republic!


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As some members have noted, there is a bit of a CR1 fan club on this board. That said you should find some technical debates and comparisons on the CR1.

I've had one for 12 months and love every ride, but the new owners don't stop telling their friends how stiff their bike is.

The Specialised is probably more comfortable over endurance rides as the CR1 is extremely stiff.


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