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 Post subject: BH G5 in Taiwan..
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:19 pm 
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so while most of the world is still waiting, G5 is already available in Taiwan. can't blame anyone though, they're made there!
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matching FSA kits and Scratch. nice!
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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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I'm not a fan of Turkish blue, but this one sure looks tasteful.

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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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What does this bike do better than the other bikes on the market (like the Trek Madone, Cervelo R3, Spec Tarmac, etc)? Are they a lot cheaper to buy?


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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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rnhood wrote:
What does this bike do better than the other bikes on the market (like the Trek Madone, Cervelo R3, Spec Tarmac, etc)? Are they a lot cheaper to buy?


1. I honestly don't know
2. definitely not.

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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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ferrarista wrote:
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re-did the links.
can see now?

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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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Claimed weight is 800 grams. Any verified numbers?

What it does better than other bikes? It looks like it was built from a "wish list": tapered head tube, BB30, ISP, skinny seat stays, "aero" cut-out on seat tube.

But honestly I'm skeptical of the mass claim: each of these "wish list" items, except the seat stays but additionally the paint, adds frame mass. (BB30 trades frame mass for hardware mass).

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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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djconnel wrote:
Claimed weight is 800 grams. Any verified numbers?

But honestly I'm skeptical of the mass claim: each of these "wish list" items, except the seat stays but additionally the paint, adds frame mass. (BB30 trades frame mass for hardware mass).


that's what I want to know as well.
I asked the frameset owner the same question, still waiting for a reply.

the seatpost/clamp design remains the same as G4, which is horrible IMO..

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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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In comparison, 56 cm Trek Madone-6 is claimed @ 890 grams, according to the El Camino Bicycles blog. I'd guess the BH is somewhat heavier than this, given the shaped seat tube and the longer seat mast.

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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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bh geometry is a bit different than other brands... they use extremely short chainstays. standard race geometry bikes will have 405-410mm chainstays, whereas the bh uses 402s. this, coupled with a lot of bb drop, gives them different handling characteristics than a lot of other brands. they're pretty "jumpy" with such a short wheelbase, but you can carve them through corners well.


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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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Chainstay lengths:

Cervelo: 39.9 (40.9 for special Paris-Roubaix version)
Time RXR Ulteam VIP: 39.9 to 40.1
Colnago EPS: 39.7 to 41.3 (40.2 w/ 53 cm eff top tube: only one I checked which continually scales this dimension)
BH: 40.2
Boardman: 40.5
Look 585: 40.5
Ruegamer Zen: 40.5
Fuji SL/1: 40.5
Litespeed Vortex: 40.6 (except for XL)
Specialized Tarmac: 40.5 to 41.0 (SL... SL/3 not listed yet, SL/2 no longer listed)
Canyon SLX: 40.5 to 41.0
Merckx EMX: 40.6 to 40.8
Parlee Z4: 41.0
Specialized Roubaix: 41.2 to 42.0
Trek Madone 6: 41.0 to 41.2
Calfee Pro: 41.5

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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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Curious: was that shipped assembled as a bike, a CKD, or frame with matching parts kit?

Very exciting to see increased government support and GP cycling participation in TWN. :thumbup:


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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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Cam wrote:
Curious: was that shipped assembled as a bike, a CKD, or frame with matching parts kit?

Very exciting to see increased government support and GP cycling participation in TWN. :thumbup:


it's a frameset + matchaing parts and only 10 sets available (in Taiwan, not in the whole world, so I was told)

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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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djconnel wrote:
In comparison, 56 cm Trek Madone-6 is claimed @ 890 grams, according to the El Camino Bicycles blog. I'd guess the BH is somewhat heavier than this, given the shaped seat tube and the longer seat mast.


i cant belive how much your in love with the new madone hahahaha
no hard feelings :beerchug:

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 Post subject: Re: BH G5 in Taiwan..
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Don't know about the G5 but traditionally BH have had more relaxed seat tube angles than most so it also make then a good potential fit for women or short guys. We bought SWMBO a Cervelo RS to get the 73 degree seat tube in a small size. At that stage we thought it was the Cervelo range in a 51cm or a custom frame to get her required geometry. Found out later several BH frames had even more relaxed seat tube angles :roll: ...

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