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Trade a Parlee Z4 for a Colnago M10
Poll ended at Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:24 am
Yes, do it 38%  38%  [ 6 ]
No, your a fool 63%  63%  [ 10 ]
Much of a muchness 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:24 am 
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I have a 2007 Z4 (bought NOS 2011) which i have been riding and loved. But after buying a used 2011 Colnago EPS (Record 11), the ride is so much better i am considering selling the Parlee. The Z4 has Sram Red on it which i loathe, after going back to Campy.
The opportunity has come up to do a trade for the Parlee with groupset, on a 2011 Colnago M10 frameset, monolink post & seat + cash possibly. I already have a mixed Campy 10 spd groupset to go on it.
Any opinions either way? Is it like for like or anyone ridden both? Is the M10 comparable with the EPS?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:20 pm 
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How about putting Campag on the Z4?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:57 pm 
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I don't think the M10 will ride like the EPS. The EP, EPS, c59 and c60 are made in Italy in a completely different way, with lugs and tubes.The M10 I think is made in the Giant factory in Taiwan, not that thats a bad thing but its very different (and lighter). I have an EP with Record and like it very much.


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No first hand experience but a friend whose team rides the M10 says its a bit of a brick. So if comfort is a priority maybe not the best choice.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:54 am 
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The M10 (which I've ridden a fair bit) is a very nice race bike. Different from the EPS (which I own). The EPS is a super race bike and a wonderful all-rounder (good tire clearance, etc). The M10 is a lighter bike and a rocket to ride. I'd love to have one as my dedicated race bike.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:51 pm 
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Never sell the Z4, I own one for 5 years. I also own a De Rosa King 3 RS and a Cervelo Soloist Carbon but the Z4 stays my favorite what a hell/nice ride the Z4 is....


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:37 pm 
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Mr.Gib wrote:
No first hand experience but a friend whose team rides the M10 says its a bit of a brick. So if comfort is a priority maybe not the best choice.


I went from R3 (2007,2008,2009) and I would say that I prefere the M10 7 day's aweek.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:08 pm 
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The only other point i should add is the sizing. The Parlee is a L or 575 t/t and the M10 is a 54s (565 t/t).
I am 180cm tall and the EPS i have is a 54s also. The 10mm difference is fairly noticable between the two even though they are set up as close as possible.
110, -6 stem on the Z4, 120, -10 on the EPS.


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fletch62 wrote:
The 10mm difference is fairly noticable between the two even though they are set up as close as possible.


If you're noticing it you haven't set it up as close as possible. Set the two bikes up based on stack and reach, top tube measurements mean nothing.

And if it were up to me I'd keep the Parlee, If they're similar sizes (eg within 10mm stack and reach wise) geometry differences can be sorted out easily.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:50 am 
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Damn, same bloke with the M10 has a Time VXR Proteam module for sale in my size.
A new poll might be needed. Always loved the look of the older Time frames.


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I am 182 using a 52s. 110mm stem.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:43 pm 
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No, I heard on good authority that M10s have a pretty high failure rate.


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No, I heard on good authority that M10s have a pretty high failure rate.



Tell me more about that please.


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