New powermeter rumours

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kulivontot
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by kulivontot

Probably no. Because they don't exist.

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xplaza
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by xplaza

I would love to see a cheaper version of the Campagnolo Power2Max using the new alu Potenza crank arms (in case someone from p2max reads this :wink: )

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4iiii starting to show up in Europe

€418.80 for 105 crank arm

https://www.evanscycles.com/4iiii-preci ... 0-EV273962

as opposed to €598.80 for stages

https://www.evanscycles.com/stages-shim ... 2-EV261153

should shake things up.

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by srshaw

jeffy wrote:4iiii starting to show up in Europe

€418.80 for 105 crank arm

https://www.evanscycles.com/4iiii-preci ... 0-EV273962

as opposed to €598.80 for stages

https://www.evanscycles.com/stages-shim ... 2-EV261153

should shake things up.


Now this is the kind of price I'm looking for, although still a bit pricey (for me) with dura ace.

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by uraqt

Very likely new Stages....

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... ain-47114/


"The bikes use dual-sensor Stages power meters that capture data at 64hz — meaning 64 times a second — at a wide range of cadences (10-220rpm) and power outputs (1-2,999w)."

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by Darceking

Out of interest, do you think a SRM Chain Catcher with Magnet attached would work with the pioneer ?

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by rukomasa

Dont know a lot for the srm catcher but is it for cadence magnet? then the answer is no because Pioneer magnet is not a simple single magnet. It consists of two pieces and they are facing N and S each towards the sensor as far as i checked mine. Theoretically the official magnet patch is replacable if you have two small pieces but i have never try since now pioneer does not require magnets at the latest firmware if you use simple Ant+ mode.

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uraqt wrote:Very likely new Stages....

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... ain-47114/


"The bikes use dual-sensor Stages power meters that capture data at 64hz — meaning 64 times a second — at a wide range of cadences (10-220rpm) and power outputs (1-2,999w)."

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No mention of what the head unit is for something with that high a resolution. My understand was that that SRM is on the only major that uses sampling at great than one second via a secondary ant+ channel. Others may have a higher resolution but average the data????

I stand to be corrected as I am a little fuzzy on the some of the ant+ stuff

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by nemeseri

Curious George wrote:
uraqt wrote:Very likely new Stages....

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... ain-47114/


"The bikes use dual-sensor Stages power meters that capture data at 64hz — meaning 64 times a second — at a wide range of cadences (10-220rpm) and power outputs (1-2,999w)."

C


No mention of what the head unit is for something with that high a resolution. My understand was that that SRM is on the only major that uses sampling at great than one second via a secondary ant+ channel. Others may have a higher resolution but average the data????

I stand to be corrected as I am a little fuzzy on the some of the ant+ stuff


Pioneer also has a greater data resolution.

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by uraqt

Not even 50% sure but I think to get the higher resolutions they have to use a private ant channel

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Curious George wrote:No mention of what the head unit is for something with that high a resolution. My understand was that that SRM is on the only major that uses sampling at great than one second via a secondary ant+ channel. Others may have a higher resolution but average the data????

I stand to be corrected as I am a little fuzzy on the some of the ant+ stuff


I believe this is correct, but I think it only applies to the PC7. IIRC, the PC8 records at a slower sampling rate.

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More Shimano PM details:
http://cyclingtips.com/2016/06/prototyp ... de-suisse/

This whole fiddling with the cable is a huge let down for me. Do engineers at Shimano have a fetish for cables or what? The rechargeable and fully sealed part is good news though.

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nemeseri wrote:More Shimano PM details:
http://cyclingtips.com/2016/06/prototyp ... de-suisse/

This whole fiddling with the cable is a huge let down for me. Do engineers at Shimano have a fetish for cables or what? The rechargeable and fully sealed part is good news though.


It is very clear from the pics that it is a prototype and not a finished product. I would not assume anything at this point...

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Wires to make it one transmitter and battery removes the dropout issues of the Pioneer units.. and honestly how often are 99% of people removing their crank.
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