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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:47 am 
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Actually I think they might be Ksyrium SL's by the stiffness and weight.

Easton/Velomax wheels incorporate a twin threaded spoke (no spoke head). It's useful in that most spokes break at the head, but the spokes are threaded into the hub and glued with locktight (and are a real pain to remove as it requires heating the hub).


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I have a Zipp 404,Cosmic Carbones,Campy Shamal.
The Cosmic Carbones are the best high profile clinchers that i ride...I'm wight 86 kg.I'm thinking about Reynolds Stratus DV,they look great and i can see a lot of positives feedbacks.


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Actually, one of the best aero wheels I've ever ridden (ie: very fast) were the Campy Shamal's. Those were one of my 'everyday wheels' a few years ago, and now I wish I'd have kept them. Too bad they don't make those anymore. :(

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Actually, one of the best aero wheels I've ever ridden (ie: very fast) were the Campy Shamal's. Those were one of my 'everyday wheels' a few years ago, and now I wish I'd have kept them. Too bad they don't make those anymore. :(


They do show up on Ebay- often at decent prices.

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Actually, one of the best aero wheels I've ever ridden (ie: very fast) were the Campy Shamal's. Those were one of my 'everyday wheels' a few years ago, and now I wish I'd have kept them. Too bad they don't make those anymore. :(


They do show up on Ebay- often at decent prices.


Yeah, I'm sure they do, and I could find a good used set if I looked around. But the wheels I have are fine for now until I get a few other things corrected- different seatpost for more setback, new pedals, new cogs...you know.

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Been using a pair of 420's for some months now :

New bearings are great
rims stay true
wheels still feel stiff and fast. always a nice contrast to my mavis SSC SL's
Also the silver color looks Great


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Hey cwdzoot, could you tell me more about your wheels?

I sent you a PM and email.

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always a nice contrast to my mavis SSC SL's

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No doubt Cosmic Carbones are the best all around aero wheel.

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Use Cosmic carbons on my Pinner for everyday riding in the summer. Great wheel and no probs at all. Heavy but reliable.


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Samu Ilonen wrote:
rohaimie wrote:
Has anyone here use Mavic carbone as an training and everyday ride??


Think about this way:

-you got durable hubs
-you got good/enought spokes
-you got solid/good quality rims (Open Pro's with carbon cover?)

So why not for everyday use?


Lets see,

-you got potholes
-you got stupid inattentive motorists
-you got to spend a lot more to replace a rim

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Lets see,

-you got potholes
-you got stupid inattentive motorists
-you got to spend a lot more to replace a rim


Right! And unless a person has more money than brains, I wouldn't recommend it either.

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Lets see,

-you got potholes
-you got stupid inattentive motorists
-you got to spend a lot more to replace a rim


I feel pretty confidient in saying that carbones will take a beating and keep rolling steady and true. Not sure I could say the same thing for other wheels sets out there. A Good, well built, wheel will take the beating from potholes, be able to corner quickly to avoid inattentive motorists, and never need to be replaced. I'd rather pay more for a well built wheel then pay less for a cheap wheel that would crack and fail under suck conditions. Mavic all the way!

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Mavic all the way!


Not! :D

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flying wombat wrote:

Lets see,

-you got potholes
-you got stupid inattentive motorists
-you got to spend a lot more to replace a rim


Oh, this king of paranoya. How you do, do you leave your house ever?

Or you must have worst luck in this planet.

Last time had troubles in potholes, I ride with Zipp 404 clinchers on rain. Both wheeld snake bited and got flat. Tyres were Conti Super sonics then. There was nothing wrong in these wheels after that, just new inner tubes. And it was big hit....and it was in 2001 or 2002?

So I don't really fear training on LW's etc quality wheels but racing in totally different, not really choice ride lines, lot of riders in many skill levels, high speed,beeing toast etc.

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