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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:23 am 
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Carnacs have way more arch support and a wider toe box area. Shimanos are flatter and narrower. Shimanos may have the edge on weight.

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Thanks.
That's a bit different than what I understood him to say, but he did say they were very similar and that either one would be his recommendation.

I also have flat feet, so I guess the Carnac would be better?
Any particular model you recommend?
Do you know basic Carnac size equivalents to Sidi/DMT? (Because I may have to order online; no one around here has Carnac in my size.)

EDITED: never mind: I found this chart on Competitive Cyclist:
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=SIZE_CHART&SIZE_CHART.ID=2

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Carnacs are slightly bigger. If you have flat feet you should stay away from them, as the pronounced arch section will make your feet so sore you'll cry. Really.

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I decided to go with rocket 7's last summer. sent in tracing of my foot to get the correct size, so this was considered a non-custom shoe. It was $359. ABSOLUTELY the best money spent. These things fit like a glove out of the box, they are literally slipper light. They weigh as much as one of my winter booties! 3 straps instead of the bulky ratchet system is a perfect setup and they look good to boot. They are holding up perfectly and are stiff, yet comfortable and much lighter than any other shoe i looked at. with rotational weight always being an issue, these shoes should seriously be considered


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Paco Bonnin wrote:
Carnacs are slightly bigger. If you have flat feet you should stay away from them, as the pronounced arch section will make your feet so sore you'll cry. Really.


This is absolutely true. I went from Carnac to Sidi, which I got used to. Then back to my old Carnacs for a race because I thought they'd be stiffer. The pain was incredible.

Shimano 215s are v nice.

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What do the Poggio IIIs weigh?
Also has anyone yet weighed the Kyomas - I don't trust DMT here.

And: do the Rocket7 shoes all look like on the HP?
I am not a stylist, but to me they look more than odd and cheap - no matter which color. :roll:

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if someone in europe can show me a site to order them off I will buy them and then weigh them. My LBS cant get them for some reason!

Kyomas, DMT


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