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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:05 am 
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These two cranks look somewhat similar. Anyone know if there is any relationship?


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These two cranks look somewhat similar. Anyone know if there is any relationship?


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yeah noticed this also the other day,
not looking just pretty similar but identical


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Are you sure?
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Similar, but not the same.

The more important question is, is it a better design than having a larger radius betwen the arms like a FSA or this?

Pity THM have no plans for 180s :cry:

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has the deda an integrated spindle?

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Definitely not the same :!:

The only thnig that looks similar is the spider design, that's all.

Deda is Compactdrive, THM is standard.
Deda has a normal ISIS axle, THM integrated.
The crankarm is different, smooth (THM) against welded (Deda)
You might look at the Deda site:
http://www.dedaelementi.com/it/cat_dpower.asp


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i really like thm clavicula, but they are sold out till april, i hope this is an early april fools joke... :x but regardless, i would consider them when the time comes. i still would like to see how they fair off against the zipp 300 cranks.

i wonder who will make a stiffer/stronger crank this year. Zipp, Thm, etc... thm has already let me know that their cranks are going to be stiffer than the Dura ace 7800. maybe they will be just as stiff as the Cannondale Si hollowgram cranks? but can the zipps be stiffer with their claim of being 50% stiffer than anything previously out?


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I am waiting for THM to (hopefully) come out with a compact crank. That would be even lighter.


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I do notice a significant weight difference.

The Deda, despite being compact, are listed as 546 grams.

The THM is noted to be aiming for 420 grams.

There must be a signficant manufacturing difference to explain this weight descrepency.


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Also, that 420g includes the bottom bracket.

I don't think the Zipp crank will be as stiff as the THM. Zipp claims their wheels are some of the stiffest, which many of us know that they are not.

Also, the crankset (well, the arms at least) that's considered to have the best STW currently on the market is the Storck, made by THM. Think Storck Power Arms: stiffer, lighter, with an intergrated BB.


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...and quality. Deda :hmm: v. THM/Storck :thumbup:
Of course, for more than US$ 1000.00 for a crankset/bb....

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Second that. The Dedas look as if they are made in the same factory as a lot of the carbon cranks out there. So does the BB. Premium $$$$$ price for Chinese made stuff? :roll:

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:lol: Sori, should've had a second look at the thm's i thought they'd just been straight out copied by deda.
is it just me or is deda (sort of) copying thm's design, making it heavier then joining the compact crank craze,
monkey see, monkey do :wink:


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