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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:55 pm 
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How does it compare to the CR1?

More expensive than CR1?
Heavier?

does it handle better?

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Where did you wake up?

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Price is ~same and weight in under/or ~100g more.

I'll bet CR1 is bit stiffer due to bigger diameter tubeset.

But Look has better fork and many like it's traditional look more.

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Trumppi -

Beautiful bike!

Do you like the Sword bar/stem? I wonder if they are a bit on the flexy side...

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rico wrote:
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Beautiful bike!

Do you like the Sword bar/stem? I wonder if they are a bit on the flexy side...

Thanks

rico


K-sword bar is not a flexy, but it is elastic in vertical direction. It is hard to explain, but it works fine and I like the shape of those ITM bars. Stem is a super stiff and heavy (184g/12cm). So the K-Sword compo is not best possible WW stuff, but if it's suitable for Valverde ( even when He sprints )then it is Ok for me. :D

But after all K-sword bar and stem fits nice to 585 frame...


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My "old" 585 with Zipp 303/tufo tubulars. Light enough. :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:26 am 
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The german magazine Tour http://www.tour-magazin.de tested the Look 585 in issue 2/05
as one of 10 sub 1100g frames:
http://www.tour-magazin.de/to/tour_arti ... &subnav=21

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You can compare the test result to a few other frames here
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... ght=#43633
(TCR + Advanced, Canyon F10, Red Bull Carbon and SCott CR1)

more
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... 4577#44577
(Calfee Dragonfly and Colnago C50)

one more here (Wilier Le Roi)
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... ght=#43577

Trek Madone 5.9 (from 04)
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... 5179#45179


Here is a description of how the tests are done:
http://www.tour-magazin.de/to/show.php3 ... &subnav=21
If you have problems with the German, try the babelfish:
http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/babelfish/tr


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@HåKanC

... and Finnish cycling magazine tested the 585 in issue 1/2005. http://www.fillari-lehti.fi/perus/jutut/2005/Look0105.pdf

and if you have problems with finnish or finnish people babelfish doesn't help you at all. :lol: This topic is four month old

Your point was? :wink:


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