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Antoine
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by Antoine

Bondurant wrote:Thanks. I've got a pair of Vaypor S and a pair of Blitz, they are the only ones I have experience of. Hoping that the Riot Plus are more like the former as they fit me like a glove.


Could you tell the differences between the Vaypor S and the Blitz ? I'm happy with my Blits but wonder if the Vaypor would be better.

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Bondurant
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by Bondurant

Yes, they feel very different. In particular the Blitz feel a little lower and narrower in the mid to rear of the foot. Not as secure around the heel.

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Hoing
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by Hoing

I'm currently using the Vaypor plus. Super Siff shoes.

EMMANUEL15
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by EMMANUEL15

Hello i have a pair of bont vaypor s whyte in size 45 Wide , but they are 5mm to long for me so if anyone is interested !

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TonyM
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by TonyM

Does anyone have compared the Vaypor + 2016 or the Helix with the Vaypor S?

I have the Vaypor and the Vaypor S and I really prefer the Vaypor S. I am not sure the Vaypor + 2016 or the Helix would be again an improvement however...

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by sungod

TonyM wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:38 am
Does anyone have compared the Vaypor + 2016 or the Helix with the Vaypor S?

I have the Vaypor and the Vaypor S and I really prefer the Vaypor S. I am not sure the Vaypor + 2016 or the Helix would be again an improvement however...
unless the fit is better for you, i don't think either would be better than the vaypor s which still seems to be bont's top model

vs. the vaypor s neither have ventilation at the arch, on those really hot rides it gives a bit of extra comfort, but i think main differences aside from colour options are...

helix no independent front-mid tension setting, i'd miss that

vaypor + leather (kangaroo/upper, cow/lining), i only had one pair of shoes with kangaroo leather (lake) and never will again, i found it stretched very fast, and drying time was much longer

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TonyM
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by TonyM

sungod wrote:
TonyM wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:38 am
Does anyone have compared the Vaypor + 2016 or the Helix with the Vaypor S?

I have the Vaypor and the Vaypor S and I really prefer the Vaypor S. I am not sure the Vaypor + 2016 or the Helix would be again an improvement however...
unless the fit is better for you, i don't think either would be better than the vaypor s which still seems to be bont's top model

vs. the vaypor s neither have ventilation at the arch, on those really hot rides it gives a bit of extra comfort, but i think main differences aside from colour options are...

helix no independent front-mid tension setting, i'd miss that

vaypor + leather (kangaroo/upper, cow/lining), i only had one pair of shoes with kangaroo leather (lake) and never will again, i found it stretched very fast, and drying time was much longer
Thanks for the feedback!

I will most probably stay with my Vaypor S.
Actually VERY happy with these shoes.

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Kayrehn
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by Kayrehn

I have both Vaypor + and S and having moulded both, I felt that the + was still more comfortable because it seems more moudable and I could make it accommodate my wide foot width better. Might not be a problem if you don't have the wide foot issue, or perhaps I spent more time moulding the + or was able to do it better somehow. The S looks better though

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EMMANUEL15
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by EMMANUEL15

Hello someone know the diference of saddle height beetween bont vaypor and sworks 6 ; thanks.

Hexsense
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by Hexsense

EMMANUEL15 wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:49 pm
Hello someone know the diference of saddle height beetween bont vaypor and sworks 6 ; thanks.
Own a Bont Vaypor S (wide), tested Sworks 6 (wide) briefly so i can not give exact number.
I feel that Bont's carbon is ~2mm thinner, this is not exact number as heat molding could move a bit of carbon from forefoot to arch area changing stack height too and my Bont are already heat molded once. Their official stackheight on website is 3.6mm.
Bigger different is in the insole however, Specialized insole i tested are 4.5mm thick on the forefoot while Bont's original insole is ~1mm-ish.
I later change Bont insole to Giro Supernatural Fit Kit which maintain thin forefoot and heel but thicker on the mid foot to help arch support.

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by EMMANUEL15

Thanks Hexesense i did find the perfect hight is +7mm with s6 and specialized BG soil.
And i am really surprise after 3rides how the shoes is securing the foot holding it perfectly and with the BG soil it is like i am pushing on the pedales with the entire foot not only with the front part like lyke Bont and also with the more curved external soil it s like the foot is going up when you pull the pedales much more naturally.
Will see.

biohazard31
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by biohazard31

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Hi Guys,


Is there a way I could change the shape of my bont Vaypor+ specifically the right shoe. This have an annoying arch bump and I'm semi flat footed. Left shoe is ok, as you can see from the link I posted, the shape of sole of the shoe is different and there a very prominent dent at the bottom of the right shoe.

I tried to baked it in the oven within the stated temperature level and duration from Bont. But nothing has changed even I used the handle of a screwdriver to push it down.Tried to wear it to push the arch down and it ended cracking the heel pads.
Used a hair dryer and heat spotted at the arch area but still fail to mould.

Any other way to get around with it?
Thank you very much!

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kdawg
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by kdawg

Mine changed shape quite a lot in that area - I think you need an oven thermometer and try again - you shouldn’t need a screwdriver or anything for that area, just put them on and stand up.
I'm left handed, if that matters.

sungod
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by sungod

afaik the temperature bont state is too low, they build in a margin of error to stop people going too high with inaccurate oven controls - i put a thermocouple on the shoe and at the 'correct' temperature it was not mouldable

i use a heat gun set to 100 c with an accurate temperature probe, that way i can control which area is heated, a hairdryer can also be used but you need to be careful as the temperature won't be regulated

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by biohazard31

I'll give heat gun a try. Thank you!

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