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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:16 pm 
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The problem is actually caused mostly by that front baseplate screw. It goes in with the screw head at an angle relative to the adapter plate so when I tighten it down it warps the plate. Ill try and take a picture but I only have a crappy cellphone camera.

crappy ascii art of what im talking about:
..\ ..... ||.. (3 adapter screws)
_...----..._ (shoe sole)


Anyways, they work now (after much tinkering). The zero C clips are very stiff for me (I only weigh 120lbs...) so I put in some light-action C clips and its much better. Sorry for sort of highjacking the thread!


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:06 pm 
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Try lubing the springs with some teflon lube. Also, make sure to check on your cleat screws every few rides, since you have to keep the torque low in order for the spring to work correctly. One time, I noticed two screws had totally fallen out due to my own negligence. Luckily, it did not affect my ability to ride (much), but I did replace them as soon as I found out.

Rider weight shouldn't have much impact on ability to engage the cleats. You can do so with minimal force while seated, provided you haven't overtightened your screws.

In terms of the angle of the screw you mentioned, as I said, I believe the soles are handmade and hand drilled. It may be defective (and maybe why you got them in "used condition" so cheap?).


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:41 pm 
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I didn't get them used. I got them brand new from Excel sports -- I ordered by phone and asked for a sizeable percentage off just because, and they gave it to me.

The system is lubed up properly etc. I've run speedplays for the past two years so I pretty much know what Im doing with them. Rider weight definitely impacts the ability to engage cleats. That was the whole reason the Light Action system was created, for lighter riders that had trouble providing enough force to clip in with just their body weight. There's a huge noticeable difference when using the LightAction C clips versus the Zero C clips, a speedplay rep told me the clips are heat treated differetly to make the Zero clip significantly stiffer and requiring more force to engage/disengage.


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:59 pm 
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Woops, sorry must have confused you with another guy who bought them used.

I believe the LA system was created for beginners and as such, does allow "easier" engage/disengagement, but I've been riding X1 TIs for two years now and the only issue with engagement I've had was misaligning the cleat when trying to engage. That, and over-tightening the screws on my first ride.

Anyway, seems like you've got the issue resolved. Maybe go for Speedplay-specific Bonts next time though to save yourself the headache.


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:59 am 
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Yeah... they were really sort of an impulse buy though so I never thought to check if a 4-hole version existed though, heh.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:43 pm 
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I loved my Sworks, but wow, the power transfer in the bonts is straight up gangster, LOL

can some one recommend insoles that fit in them, my pearl izumi pair that was laying around wont really want to go in.


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:57 pm 
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Anything wrong with the stock ones?

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 Post subject: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:01 pm 
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I ripped the buckle off my A1, does anyone have an extra replacement by chance?


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:02 am 
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fyi, Sidi buckles and straps fit A1's. I replaced mine when they were damaged in an accident. :beerchug:

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:10 am 
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Kjetil, i was looking for a quick fix, havent molded mine yet and wanted someting with higher arch, i think its time to mold baby, LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:25 am 
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Mold you must. :)
Don't know if you'll be able to mold a higher arch support, though. I couldn't, but then again I'm pes cavus as mentioned previously; Not an arch, really, more like a cavity, hence the latin name for the anomality. Had no problem fitting my custom orthopedic insoles in them, though. Onlya bit of trimming in the toe area was needed. Had to crank the ratchet down real hard to get enough volume for it all. I've baked them twice, but I'll bake them again to get a bit more room for a couple of knucles. Funny feet.

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:18 am 
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Anyone got news on the Zero plus? Can't seem to find it.


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes: Zero+
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:49 pm 
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The Zero+ is on Bonts website, you can order it...

Hmm, it seems the Zero is gone?


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:01 am 
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Just wondering if anyone who has drilled the sole of their Bont's can give me any insight on this.

I'm a fairly small person and I like my q-factor to be fairly narrow. I'm riding speedplays zeros and already have the cleat adjusted to the narrowest Q-factor, but it's still a tad too much for me so I want to redrill the holes on the sole. My 3-4 hole adapter is also slammed all the way back (towards the heel) at the moment so I could drill the holes towards the inside and back but the new holes would be at best about 1cm away from the old ones. I'm wondering if this would weaken the cleat mounting area significantly enough to risk the sole exploding on me...


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:09 am 
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You're after a midfoot cleat pacement? Steve hogg has written something about that.

Maybe this Speedplay kit could be part one of the solution?
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CLEAT EXTENDER BASE PLATE KIT: Replaces Standard Black Plastic Base Plates to provide 2mm additional forward positioning and 14mm additional rearward positioning.
Source: http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuse ... erchandise
Part two: It is possible to get Speedplay Zero pedals with axles as short as 50 mm. 53mm is stock, except for Titanium which only comes in 50mm.

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