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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:10 am
by Samu Ilonen
Yep, I know that Vittorias etc. are nicer to ride but I have got used that tyres las all summer and I get ONE flat on every 2-3 years. (On Michelin Pro Race's)

I had Vittoria Evo's on this summer but rear was gone in about month!

Tufo's are light, cheap and they last very long. (miles/glass) And I don't see any faults on them. If it wet, use 9 bars, normally 10. Over 10 you lose your some white bits from you mouth...(85kg/LW's)

After Tour mag's test and riding Finnish ITT-nationals on Vittorias on Campy Chibli/Mavic Cosmic Carbon I bought Evo's for my LW's.

I didn't see ANY change on our clubs weekly 10km TT time!

I was SO dissaponted. I get 3 Tufo S3 Lite <215g for 2 Evo's. And that 3 is somethin like 5 Evo's counted on miles.

I will buy Vittoria Evo CS for my LW disk when it arrives. Just to be sure to getting fastest tyre. (and 22mm/170g) I hope Starbike can get them.

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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:15 am
by Samu Ilonen
rico wrote:Bud -
Samu -


Incidentally, the WW listings have the Corsa CX 19mm tubs down as 230g. rico


Vittoria's www-site list 20mm only on 26"? (For juniors?) Rest are 21mm and 270g, really 280g.

http://www.vittoria.com/index3.asp?lingua=en

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:52 am
by Villadsen
@ Samu,

Just a small question. Why dont you buy Veloflex for your LWs. I seem to remember from the Tour test that they had the lowest rolling resistance. If you want something really light and fast I would put Veloflex Record on the front wheel and Veloflex Servizo Corsa on the rear.

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:40 am
by Samu Ilonen
Because I haven't seen them ever. I don't know about durability (miles/glass) and they were ~100€/piece? And sold where? I mainly Star bike customer.

Tufo's (30€) and Vittorias (45€) are sold everywhere.

I have been thinking Veloflex for disk. If there is problem getting Evo CS, then I try to get something else.

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:23 pm
by Villadsen
try here: http://www.veloflexdirekt.net.tc/ you get 4 Records for EUR 196. The claimed weight is 180g, but in my experience they are closer to 200g. The Servizio Corsa is also about 20g above the claimed weight. My favorit is actually the Carbonio, which is about 250g. That is a great tyre.

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:12 pm
by Samu Ilonen
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That sound good...if that rolls so well as Tour's test. Amaizing low pressure recomendation+22mm. Should be nice on bad roads?