open question to superlite

[zoey]

Superlite looks like we are both building the same frame. Here is my parts list. I'm still finalizing it as well. The Easton fork I'm not to sure about. The same goes for the AC BB. Comments?

Frame 2004 Scott CR1 Team 56cm 895
Fork Easton SLX 285 or Look 5SL 290
Seat Clamp ExtraLight Ultra Clamp 9
Seat Shim USE 31.6 shim 26
BB AC ISIS 138
Headset Expander ExtraLight Ultrastar 6
Headset Topcap Extralight Top Cap 8
Headset Shim(s) FSA Carbon 1
Headset FSA integrated 66
Crankset Stronglight Carbon 175 39/53 ISIS 460
Pedals Speedplay X1 BTP Tuned 134
Bar Tune Carbon 46cm 164
Stem F99 12cm Ti bolts 104
SeatPost New Ultimate 27.2 250mm 96
Seat Tune SL NEW 46
Brakes Zero Gavity 194
Glue Tufo 25
Front Wheel AC Carbon 38mm 16h Sapim spokes 415
Rear Wheel AC Carbon 38mm 20h Sapim spokes 623
Tires Tufo Elite Jet 160 320
Tubes 0
Cassette Campy Ti 11-23 w/alum lockring 147
Skewers Tune Ti Black 52
Chain Campy C-HD 10sp 2004 111 links 258
Front Der 04 Record BTP Tuned 58
Rear Der 04 Record tuned w/Alum bolts 178
Bar Tape Cineli Cork Black 41
Cage bolts Alum (4@2g each) 8
Shifters/Brake Levers Record Ergo10sp 2004 BTP Tuned 304
Cages Elite Pase Carbon 48
Shifter/Brake cables Norkon 95
Total LBS. 11.46

Grams 5204

[ks_rider]

SL,
You were also looking at the Giant TCR Advanced. What were your reasons for going with the Scott, assuming you could have gotten either one? Your list looks good.

Ks_Rider

[spytech]

The guy said round 1300-1500 euro for the canyon frame..

that is a great price. now the question is, when will it be available?

what are the measurements of the canyon frames.

[jozuph]

Well if they want to keep all happy it should be on the market at least this year, after buzzing so much. I can check the catalog but dont know if the sizes are in there, cheers..

[Superlite]

Heres an almost finalized update on my buildup

Frame: Scott CR1 Limited M (ordered)
Fork: Scott CR1 Aero Fork (ordered)
Cranks: FSA K-Force ISIS (ordered)
BB: New Ultimate or AC
Seatpost: Heylight Superliecht 31.6 (ordered)
Dura Ace Drivetrain (have it)
Handlebar: Kestrel EMS Pro SL 26.0 (have it)
Stem: I DON'T KNOW!! A LITTLE HELP! NEEDS TO WORK WITH THE BAR
Saddle: AX liteness Apollo (anyone have this) or Selle Italia Flite TT
Wheels: Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL (have it)
Cages: Arundle X 2 (have it)
Pedal: Speedplay X/1's with my alu inserts (have it)
Brakes: Zero G (have it)

Projected weight is down to 6150-6300g depending on the few unknowns

Input is appreciated.

[userdeleted]

Just be 'cheap' and get a ritchey wcs. its light, its durable....it works. or if thats too ugly (those damn world champ stripes.....you could just paint over em tho) get a stella azzurra. either the viceversa mag, viceversa alu, or my personal favorite, the razzo.

[spytech]

Hey, SL why didnt you wait for the mega exo SL-K cranks. and whats the price on the isis version?

[Superlite]

Found out the Mega EXO weighs more then the ISIS with BB by 140g!!! The SLK is actually the heavy model, the K force is the light one at 660g with BB, SLK is 730g with BB while the k force ISIS with new ultimate BB is 580g.

[ras11]

I think I should point out SL's subtle note reguarding the stem- something worth repeating again and again.

The F99 is not a good stem for carbon bars.

I run the F99 with the Prima 199 bar (195g @ 40cm not tuned) Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather have a bar that isn't going to explode cuz I missed the torqe by a newton.

The F99 / Prima 199 is a hard combo to beat in the cost ($170), weight (269g), durability chart.

Ah.. but I'm pissing people off who spent 3x that on a bar....

Not to be bias, I also think the Kestral SL bar is wicked. Persoanlly I would stick with the Ritchey WSC stem. Not just because of cost, they are light and well designed.

I second the nomination for the Ritchey WSC.



BTW, thanks for not suggesting one of those one-piece bar-stem combos... that's just stupid. Adjustment people... come on!!!

[cadence90]

FRM WebStem Ti.

2-bolt faceplate; works great work carbon bars; light; nice simple graphics.
123g actual in 120mm. I have this stem with Kestrel EMS Pro SL bars.
The Ritchey WCS type faceplate (1-piece; 4-bolt) is actually even worse on carbon bars than 2-piece, 4-bolt types (i.e. Syntace F99).
That said, I think the Syntace F99/TTT Prima 199 is perhaps the combo; cheap, light, strong: I'm always a bit in fear of the EMS...(mine, in 44 c-c, actually weigh 177g ).

[spytech]

Found out the Mega EXO weighs more then the ISIS with BB by 140g!!! The SLK is actually the heavy model, the K force is the light one at 660g with BB, SLK is 730g with BB while the k force ISIS with new ultimate BB is 580g.

wow i thought that it would be lighter than that. maybe i should save up for the thm clavicula cranks with carbon axle.

[Michiel]

Superlite,

the extralite UL roadstem is lite and very nice. It weighs at 120mm 106gr!!

You can order through mail, contact at www.extralite.com

I can possibly get my hands on a Ax-lightness Apollo. A used one, but without any marks. Only the decals aren't on them anymore. Interested? Just let me know.

[Superlite]

I might be interested, got pics and a price?

[Michiel]

I'll try to get any pictures within a few days. I haven't got the saddle at home at the moment. I'll get back to you.

We could make a deal with the Zero Alu inserts with Ti-bolts. I mailed you about them.

[zoey]

I see several bikes with the F99 Schmoke bar listed here. I'm planning on using the Tune/Schmoke bar with the alum re-enforced stem clamping area on a Scott CR1. What about this combo?


I'm also using the F99/ttt199 combo on another bike and like it alot.