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i hope it hasn't been posted before (there are way toooo many tcr posts :roll:), but check out http://www.magentareign.com/
please forgive me if it´s been posted before (just kiddin) :D

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for the doubters who maintain stubbernly that Ullrich is on TCR Advanced without integrated seatpost...

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The ones rode in TdG, TdS - were all pre-production. By Fall 2004 - TCR Advanced and the TT frame will be avaliable... basically the ones we will see are the ones that will be sold.


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ShinyBaldy: I tell you what your problem (and the problem of many forum users) is. You read what you want to read and not what's being written. Look what I wrote:

Dr.Dos wrote:
Ullrich and Zabel used a TCR Advanced without seatdome during the 'Deutschland-Tour' and Tour de Suisse on certain stages. Ullrich used a AX Lightness combo (with a Selle Italia sticker) on the Advanced at the german championships.


I am saying, that the two riders used prototypes without the integrated post. I never implied they will use it during the TdF or that Giant will sell them to the public. That happens only in your imagination.

I am Giant weenie and I was the first to post about the integrated seatpost here on WW. Go do a search and find my argumentation with Superlite who didn't believe me either. So there is no need to call me or someone else 'stubborn'.


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Looks like der Jan was on his Walser gain :lol:


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Dr.Dos wrote:
ShinyBaldy: I tell you what your problem (and the problem of many forum users) is. You read what you want to read and not what's being written. Look what I wrote:

Dr.Dos wrote:
Ullrich and Zabel used a TCR Advanced without seatdome during the 'Deutschland-Tour' and Tour de Suisse on certain stages. Ullrich used a AX Lightness combo (with a Selle Italia sticker) on the Advanced at the german championships.


I am saying, that the two riders used prototypes without the integrated post. I never implied they will use it during the TdF or that Giant will sell them to the public. That happens only in your imagination.

I am Giant weenie and I was the first to post about the integrated seatpost here on WW. Go do a search and find my argumentation with Superlite who didn't believe me either. So there is no need to call me or someone else 'stubborn'.


lighten up francis - who said i was directing my comments to you?


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divve wrote:
Looks like der Jan was on his Walser gain :lol:

He was indeed.... but it didn't help him much :roll:
McGee was riding a Walser too....

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I wonder why Ullrich didn't use a disk. He was the only one of the peloton w/o disk and it wasn't faster, that's for sure.


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Joel wrote:
He was the only one of the peloton w/o disk

His teammate Klöden used the same setup with Xentis wheels front and rear. I wonder why he swims against the stream though.


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Dr.Dos wrote:
Joel wrote:
He was the only one of the peloton w/o disk

His teammate Klöden used the same setup with Xentis wheels front and rear. I wonder why he swims against the stream though.


There has been a lot of wind this weekend over here in Belgium... Der Jan probably didn't want to take any risks...


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Prology don't tell nothing how is going to win but I think Jan's bank account will win moust when he used also Xentis rear wheel. And I think it's not bad if there are sharp accerations and lot of wind in prology. Then It may be even better than disk. I hope Xentis wheels are tested in next Tour-mag so we can see how flexy they are. And aerodynamic against HED H3 is interesting. I bet they lose in that. But HED's are sooo flexy! Same sre HED DISK's.

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Ullrich used the Xentis rear wheel in the final TT in Switserland too.


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This website: http://www.magentareign.com/ claims the weight of a M TRC advanced at 830 grams! This is nutty light, especially if it includes the 'seat post', which I can't imagine it dosen't. The current Tour mag says its 1030g though. I really want a CR1, but I have a great relationship with a giant shop where they still let me out the door paying cost+. I can't wait till we see these things in production.


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tyson12zoll wrote:
The current Tour mag says its 1030g

That's a calculated weight. The effective weight of frame with integrated post was a bit over 1200g.


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Ullrich is using the proto-frame / ax-seatpost during the TdF. Check out the latest pics at velonews.com.



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Dr.Dos wrote:
Ullrich is using the proto-frame / ax-seatpost during the TdF. Check out the latest pics at velonews.com.



Anton, ich bin all hier. Image


Yeah, back to the future on lightwheigt innertubes :D ImageImageImageImageImage

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