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nzkiwiguy
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No it's a walser! Check this thread I just read as well

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2470&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
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Positively sure Jan was riding a Walser!
In a Eurosport preview Jan's mechanician showed a Giant (with sloping top tube!) to the camera's saying is was Jan's TT bike, but Jan actually rode his Walser :lol:

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easy way to identify the bikes.

Jan's Giant has the front brake behind the fork, the Walser doesn't


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That is not Walser. Seat post etc.

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But you need to use a Walser rear wheel on Walser frames (narrower than other frames). Jan used a Xentis wheel in the prologue. Can someone explain this?
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nzkiwiguy wrote:
easy way to identify the bikes.

Jan's Giant has the front brake behind the fork, the Walser doesn't


The bike on this pic is defintely a Giant, but in the prologue Jan was riding an other bike





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This photo was taken at the prologue....
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Damn i can't find a really good picture... BUT HE WAS RIDING HIS WALSER! BELIEVE ME! I SAW IT LIVE ON TV! A WALSER! WITH THE TYPICAL AERODYNAMIC SEATPOST AND HORIZONTAL TOP TUBE!

Sorry... I need a holiday... :lol:

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The pic above: Giant. Differences; front brake and head tube. This is the easiest way to identify them
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http://www.t-mobile-team.com/cms/tmotea ... l?id=25078

http://www.t-mobile-team.com/cms/tmotea ... l?id=25154
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NZKiwiGuy, the picture of Jan racing that you posted isn't of him at the Tour de France, because Jan raced with a 4 spoke rear wheel.

Also, it is a walser handlebar, as you can tell by the Carbon Brake lever, compared to the aluminium one on his giant.

The Giant also has a silver stem - The Walser that Jan raced didn't.

But, as it has already been pointed out... The brake is on the front of the fork.
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By the way what kind of front brake is he using here... maybe a dark anodized Dura Ace :lol:
No serious.... could it be a Zero Gravity????

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asphaltdude wrote:
By the way what kind of front brake is he using here... maybe a dark anodized Dura Ace :lol:
No serious.... could it be a Zero Gravity????


I know the ONCE ones were made by Tektro of all people (seriously). It's like a BMX u-brake and bolts on to two bosses on the forks.


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Another pic of this strange front brake....

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:lol: :lol: :lol:
We're not the only ones talking about Jan's bike....

http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/archi ... 26033.html

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I have yet another "break through"... The Giant's frame has an integrated head set...

The Walser has a conventional, "external" headset. :lol:

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Guys, :evil:

I posted the picture to show the brake behind the fork (i.e it's the giant). :o

I KNOW IT'S NOT A WALSER. Hence why I posted it. As he was not riding it in the TDF, I could not show a picture of it there :wink:

Any other proof of "re badging" in the TDF

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