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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:47 pm 
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Scott CR1 Team Issue bb:100.0Nm/° (Tour 06/2003)
Scott CR1 Pro bb: 106Nm/° (Tour 01/2004)


so it seems the scott and the giant have the same BB stiffness. how about lateral stiff?

pk0r thank you for the info.


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np :)
Lateral stiffnesses are:

Scott CR1 Team Issue: 84.7Nm/° @ 890g = STW: 91.2Nm/°/kg
Scott CR1 Pro: 83 Nm/° = STW 88Nm/°/kg

Giant TCR Composite 56Nm/° @ 1100g = 50 Nm/°/kg
Giant TCR Advanced 67Nm/° @ 1030g = 65Nm/°/kg

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I'm going back over to the shop tomorrow and going to weigh it, I'll bring my digital camry and get some pics as well.


Well, where are the details and pics?

(and isn't a camry some sort of Toyota?)


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Well, where are the details and pics?

(and isn't a camry some sort of Toyota?)


Went over, it's gone. :cry: Sold in the two days there. :shock:

Sucks,, yeah, but I got other good news, my team sponser bike shop has just become the scott dealer for my region and several other states, so he has a CR1, very cool.

Not only that, but he has the 2005 frameset as well! Supposidly 20g lighter from the 2004 since it doesn;t use ti bolts on the rear triangle, and all bonded seat/chainstays, will get pic and weight of that in a week or so with my digital CAMRY, lol, funny, thats also happens to be what I drive. :D

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SL: How is it possible that you missed the integrated seatpost on the Advanced frame?


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Hey SL,

Does this mean that the frameset is now for sale in the US? Anyone know when it will be sold in Europe?


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According to the article the frame will be availabe starting in November. Superlite has to explain something.


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According to the article the frame will be availabe starting in November. Superlite has to explain something.


Yeah, it's gone. Wasn't sold as previously posted, just was there for show.

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SL: How is it possible that you missed the integrated seatpost on the Advanced frame?


Yeah, because it DIDN"T HAVE ONE! You know prototypes ( which is what it is looking like it was, or pre production ) didn't have integrated posts.

You don't need to start giving me additude, you think I'm talking S@$%, well your loss.

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I would never question your authority, oh WW guru.


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Well, where are the details and pics?

(and isn't a camry some sort of Toyota?)


Went over, it's gone. :cry: Sold in the two days there. :shock:

Sucks,, yeah, but I got other good news, my team sponser bike shop has just become the scott dealer for my region and several other states, so he has a CR1, very cool.

Not only that, but he has the 2005 frameset as well! Supposidly 20g lighter from the 2004 since it doesn;t use ti bolts on the rear triangle, and all bonded seat/chainstays, will get pic and weight of that in a week or so with my digital CAMRY, lol, funny, thats also happens to be what I drive. :D


please elaborate more on the scott cr1 2005, are they anymore changes? i would love to pair it with the hsc 5sl fork from look, looks like a winner :lol:


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please elaborate more on the scott cr1 2005, are they anymore changes? i would love to pair it with the hsc 5sl fork from look, looks like a winner


Hey spytech

The differences between the 04 and 05 are this,

1. The the seat/chainstays are no longer bolted in place at the drop outs, but completly bonded in place to save about 20g.

2. The weave has been changed to a fat weave wich gives it a very unique apperance.

Other then that it is identical, same decals and everything. Hopefully I'll get a pic up.

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The weave has been changed to a fat weave wich gives it a very unique apperance.


The Cr1 Pro has always had a larger weave pattern compared to the Team Issue (and nicer decals :wink: )



I prefer the tighter weaved look of the T.I.


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I may be biased but the Team weave is better.
Is the 2005 weave somewhere between the 04 Pro and Team?


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Cycling News review of TCR Advanced, complete with integrated seatpost (which Ulli/Zabel did not use).

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2004/news/jun25

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They said a modified version was used by him in the Deutschland Tour...aluminum modified by the looks of it :)

BTW, anyone notice the darker Shimano cranks? :lol:


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