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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:11 pm 
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http://www.giant-bicycles.com/de/000.00 ... azineID=82

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/fr/050.00 ... 50.000.asp

new giant composite utralight


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umm...WOW! Wonder if the integrated seatpost will see production?


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Looks like Giant is trying to top the Scot CR1.

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so the end result is more like the old frame but lighter and stiffer. nice i like :P


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so the end result is more like the old frame but lighter and stiffer. nice i like :P


Yeah it will definitly outsell the CR1 with Ullie on it.


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CR1s are sold out in Aust, more because of a limited supply than huge demand.

By the price tag and the supply of CR1s I think Scott are trying build their image rather than build the most popular road bike.

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CR1s are sold out in Aust, more because of a limited supply than huge demand.

By the price tag and the supply of CR1s I think Scott are trying build their image rather than build the most popular road bike.

Brian


Nah I just think they got surprised by the good press the frame got and had scaled production to what number they usually sold of their top frame. So now they are prepared for next years boom and US reintroduction


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I can buy 3 TCR2's at my LBS for the price of 1 Team Issue. The CR1 is $500 cheaper than the Trek 5900 in Aust. The Cinelli Aliante is $2,500 cheaper.

Giant produce mass production bikes, Scott are trying to be rare and very expensive. Is the CR1 obscenely expensive in the US?

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Bruiser wrote:
I can buy 3 TCR2's at my LBS for the price of 1 Team Issue. The CR1 is $500 cheaper than the Trek 5900 in Aust. The Cinelli Aliante is $2,500 cheaper.

Giant produce mass production bikes, Scott are trying to be rare and very expensive. Is the CR1 obscenely expensive in the US?

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here in Europe the CR1 framekit costs about 800 Australian dollars more than the TCR composite. Taking into account the smaller production and smaller company I don´t consider the higher price surprising after all Giant is the world largest bike producer.


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Jan was happy riding his Giant today I think!

Bet Lance is even more worried now!

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Jan was happy riding his Giant today I think!

Bet Lance is even more worried now!


Both will ride a 6800gram bike in the tour. So the weight of the frame is of no impartance in the tour this year.


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Both will ride a 6800gram bike in the tour. So the weight of the frame is of no impartance in the tour this year.


Very good point.

Seems most people forget that pretty much everyone in the mountain stages rides a bike of equal weight. But the wheels don't all weigh the same, thats where the difference is, that and a little thing called training. :lol:


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Both will ride a 6800gram bike in the tour. So the weight of the frame is of no impartance in the tour this year.


Very good point.

Seems most people forget that pretty much everyone in the mountain stages rides a bike of equal weight. But the wheels don't all weigh the same, thats where the difference is, that and a little thing called training. :lol:


i wonder what do they do in the mountain stages, what type of config. i bet its pretty easy to be under 15lbs with lightweight wheels and their current config. do they add weight to other parts of their bikes?


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Well just look at the bikes.

Armstrong, and a bunch of Saeco riders us heavy metal seatposts to add weight, or heavy bars, seat, weight in all the places where it won't slow you down, and where extra weight can be used to increase performance. Armstrongs seat is a brick! But it's comfy, and that matters more then weight.

Another spot I have noticed is the QR's. Might as well use heavy ones, its the lowest part of the bike, so less side to side inertia, and it's non rotational, so best place to stack up weight in my opinion.


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Superlite wrote:
Armstrongs seat is a brick! But it's comfy, and that matters more then weight.


It's not that heavy, only a bit heavier than my 135gr SLR. Using hands as scales, the difference is minimal but the comfort factor is great!


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