Samu Ilonen wrote:
Why I don't like Giant's:
-Feel it's bit stupid to make frames only in 3 sizes. They fit really well only rare people. I must exsample use 135mm (really 140mm) stem+M size or 105m stem+L. Both will not delivere goot ride and would look funny.
-2003 composite fork was awfull, very flexy and bad quality. One brokes on crown. In Finland, they are very common in racing since sponsoring system. (I really trust only Stork Stiletto, Easton, Look or Reynolds forks)
-lot of owners says frame flexes too much
-head set/integrated "cups" are crap
Not that it's a big deal, but they actually offer 4 sizes. You know what Samu, you can say something bad about any frame maker, particularly the mass produced ones. You have to take the good with the bad. I disagree with you on stiffness, as well as some Cat 1,2 & 3 racers I know would disagree with you, although most of the guys I know are racing the aluminum Giants because they can't afford to crash a carbon bike. Stiffest frame they've ridden (second stiffest I've ridden). They aren't so hard to fit really, as long as you know what geometry you like you can make it work easy, assuming you're not retarded and can use measuring tape.
My point is it's not the "rare" person that will fit one, it's more the rare person that you can't get to fit one.
I tell you something else about the Giants, no small thing, they've got probably the best warranty service of all the manufacturer's, at least in the US. I've seen frames replaced no questions asked and within a weeks time.
I've got 4k miles on my TCR and zero headset problems and I ride it on bad roads all the time. I'd prefer a Chris King but it's not as bad as you say it is.
I don't take offense at your comments I just think it's another case of "trashing a brand you don't like and have never ridden" because I know Giant makes some awesome frames especially for the money. I wish there were some rules that people could only trash what they own or something instead of spreading biased, misinformation.