best hubs? soul kozak vs tune

[ridley86]

I'm thinking of buying some light wheels at xx-lightbikes but which are the best hubs.
http://www.xx-light-bikes.de/shop/pi-9684359.htm?categoryId=55

soul kozak? are the Ceramic-Hybr.-Naben worth the extra 100 euro

or

tune mig70/mag 190? is the mag 160 worth the extra 150 euro?

are cx-ray spokes much better than lazer?

am classic hubs are out of the question because I heard the hubs aren't water proof and that's a must in Belgium.

thanks for your advice

[whooztheman]

tunes

[ridley86]

any sugestions for spoke count? i'm 60 kg. 24/28 is enough? or more spokes for better stiffness

[Skillgannon]

24/28 should be plenty for a 60kg person, especially on CX-Rays

From what I've heard, AMC hubs arent the problem in wet weahter, the rims are

Soul Kozaks - I was impressed when I saw them, but feel their a bit overpriced to be honest (though I cant remember if thier cheaper than tunes)

[whooztheman]

DT swiss + aerospokes and tune hubs.
this is what i have in my soloist with dt swiss rims.
very stiff for training!
i suggest u to use dt's aerospokes

[The Spider]

I'm a great fan oif CX-ray spokes, they are fantastic and I've swapped the majority of my handbuilt wheels to them.

I'm on Tune 190 and I heard too many stories of what a PITA the 160 was due to preload issues. Lightweight used a modified 160...they changed the carbon axle for alloy for the same reason I believe.

have a great ride no matter what your choice!

[Skillgannon]

Was just looking at that site and they had some fairly rare seeming combo's - CR-420's with Soul Kozak's, tune and ultralites - since AMC doesnt sell their rims to individuals, I'm guessing these are stripped wheels and the hubs have been sold off elsewhere ?

[Rickyfirst]

From what I've heard, AMC hubs arent the problem in wet weahter, the rims are

I suppose you mean, magnesium rims have problems in wet weather ?

[divve]

None of the hub choices of the OP are suitable for frequent wet weather. The lightest for those conditions are DT Swiss 240S.

[tommy]

None of the hub choices of the OP are suitable for frequent wet weather. The lightest for those conditions are DT Swiss 240S.

[mrowkoob]

None of the hub choices of the OP are suitable for frequent wet weather. The lightest for those conditions are DT Swiss 240S.

I would choose the Dt´s over the Tunes.

And white industries over Soul Kozaks...

[Super_fast]

@Skillgannon
In europe are amclassic rims sold sepately. Msrp of 420's is 130 euro, 350's 70 or 80 euro. But they can be found in some shops for much less.

[flying]

None of the hub choices of the OP are suitable for frequent wet weather. The lightest for those conditions are DT Swiss 240S.

That is what I have always heard.
The thing I like about the DT's is they are quiet too.
I want to do some Tunes on my next build but I have always heard the
free hub ratchet is quite loud. Not a deal breaker but I do like it
quiet when descending
My pal is riding some eastons & when we descend & I'm sucking wheel
I cannot even hear mine but his is loud!

[pantani83]

There are a lot of problems with Soul Kozak hubs, especially with the rear hub. Price is acceptable, weight is great but quality is awful. Customer service is perfect - in Poland , but hubs worth more than 300e should be more reliable.

Choose Tune - more reliable!

[toko]

White Industries or Tune