Ok, im thinking long time to build a new bike, and must admit that i was thinking long time between Ritchey Road Logic, Colnago Master or some chinese Carbon (like FM-008 for example).. I give up on Colnago Master, since is twice more money, and is heavier and more complicated to buy it... So now going in Road Logic way...
Main reason why steel, this will be my winter bike, trainer bike, bike that ill take with me when i dont want to care about transporting and potential scratch of my Colnago (in situations like that), etc... Also this bike will be riden by my gf..So need bike that i'll still love it, but not have to care too much...This bike should be replacament for my Pinarello FP3..
So help me to clear up my decision if this is ok or not... Unfortunately there is no chance to test ride it, so have to do it this way..
Im 175cm, 82.5 cm inseam, and Colnago C60 match me perfectly with 110mm -7 deg stem, big headset cup (which is like 15mm height), and 12 mm spacers under the stem. Pinarello FP3 also suit me perfectly also stem 110mm, -6 deg, 12 mm spacers under the stem, and also 15mm headset cup
So based on stack and reach, i guess i need to go for Road Logic size 53, and with 10mm shorter stem (100mm).
So what do u think? Am i right that i need 53 cm (stack on C60 50S is 547, on Road Logic 53 549mm, so i guess based on stack thats the size. But reach on C60 is 383, on road logic 391mm on Blue version, and 388mm on gray version)
How do u think will handle since probably i'll need shorter stem (100mm)? To expect not so balanced handling since short stem? And also in situations when my gf will ride it, and based on 90mm stem for Pinarello FP3, here she will need 80mm stem. She ride more sportive, lets say 100 km ride, but not fast pacing, more enjoying.. So do u think the handling will be safe enough for her with that short stem? (On Fp3 Pinarello with 90mm stem, was ok for her riding)
Where is my other dilema.. I understund that steel frame will be a bit more flexier then my C60 or even FP3 Pinarello, but still want to be able to ride this bike in the way i like.. Hard sprinting, pushing hard, and also i like to climb a lot.
My FTP at the moment based on Trainerroad and Kinetic InRide is 275 Watts, im 72 kg, and planing to raise my FTP in next few months, and lower my weight by 3-4 kg. So do u think this frame will be noodle for my riding?
I know that claimed weight on Road Logic is 1770 gm, which is about 600-700 gm more then C60 (but dont know if this weight is with headset inclued or not), and since C60 is 6880 gm with Bora One 35, and 7020gm with my Shamals, i guess in term of weight i can handle the new bike beeing like 600-700 gm then this. Of course if the clamed weight is not too much different then actual one... So u think there will be noticable weight difference for climbing?
Geometry dilemma and what to expect because of that in term of handling...
There is two versions of this frame Gray One (old model), and Blue One (New model)
The main difference between those is beafier fork on new model (found few reviews that Gray version front end is flexing more then average, i guess one of the reason for new fork), and also bigger tire clearance (im planing to ride 23, 25mm tires so this is not that important, but is good to have option for some future...)
Also those two versions are with different geometry..
When i compare chainstay length to my C60 bike, on C60 is 405mm, on Gray version is 410mm, on Blue one 415mm. I know that shorter chainstay, meen better power transfer good for climbing, sprinting etc... Oposite, longer chainstay, more comfort, but flexier, and not that good for power transfer. So should i expect big difference to my C60 because of this?
Also wheelbase on Road Logic is much longer then C60. On Blue version in my size is 993mm, on gray one is 984mm.
Also i know the longer wheelbase more stability, more comfort but not that good for more hard pushing...Same question..
Should i expect big difference because of this vs C60 geometry?
Also gray version is not compatible with Campagnolo 53/39 (probably i'll built it with Campagnolo 52/36, but also good option to have all options), on Blue one that is fixed..And i allready mentioned, gray version have shorter reach by 3mm then blue version..
Also gray version is a bit cheaper, but ill get the one better suited for my riding style, not because of price..
So, what do u think? Am i looking in right direction or wasting my time? I know it wont be that good as racing machine as C60, but still i would like to be stiff and reactiv enough for some climbing/sprinting.. As i mentioned, This bike should be replacament for my Pinarello FP3, so maybe comparation should be done vs FP3. And if i go Road Logic, what is better version to go (stiffer, better for sprinting, climbing...) Gray one or Blue?
And probably will order this few weeks, if i find out that im thinking the right way..Also, i like the look of the bike
The other alternative is Chinese Carbon frame, but i'll do it only if i have to, and still be hassle about carbon negative sides in term of beeing a bit fragile in some situations..