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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:43 pm 
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I know kinda different options here, but trying to decide between one of these. Currently have a Venge Vias, and looking for something new. Would like to transfer over my existing Di2 and Roval CLX64 wheels. Also would likely be custom painting the frame, and would be aftermarket and not from P1, My Way, etc.

The new Tarmac has great reviews. Aesthetically don't love the smaller tubes and exposed cables but think it can look really nice with the right paint on there like the Sagan Superstar and in my size 56. Would be easy to swap old parts over.

The Madone 9 looks great and I have ridden one. It's very fast and comfortable, but maybe becoming slightly old tech now. Di2 would be easy to swap over but not sure if Roval Wheels on a Trek is blasphemy.

The F10 performance seems to speak for itself. I have never ridden one. I do like the aesthetic looks of this one. Again, Di2 would be easy to swap over but not sure how the Roval wheels would look on an Italian frame.

I saw the new SLR01 disc in person the other day but have not ridden. It's the most streamlined disc bike I have seen with the cable routing, integrated cockpit etc. Not sure if I can change the hubs on my existing Rovals to work with disc, and again, Roval's on a BMC?

I am by no means a racer, just like the engineering and aesthetics of the bike itself, and want to design a nice paint scheme to go with it. I mostly do rolling hills and like a fast bike.

Thoughts or opinions?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:31 pm 
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Where did you see a BMC TMR01 Disk ?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:45 pm 
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sorry for the typo, meant SLR01


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:37 am 
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Get the Tarmac Sagan Superstar. It's the only bike that is "compatible" with your Roval wheels (but I use mine on Giant TCR ;).


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:54 am 
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mile2424 wrote:
I mostly do rolling hills and like a fast bike.

Thoughts or opinions?


Get the Madone.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:55 am 
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Madone 9 is old tech?! Nah.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:55 am 
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Not sure if I can change the hubs on my existing Rovals to work with disc


You can not convert rim brake hubs to disc brake.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:43 pm 
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My vote is for the Madone 9.....absoutely love mine. For being an "aero" bike it is crazy compliant.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:46 pm 
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I think with your stance on having Roval wheels your decision should be easier. Sounds like the Tarmac is the winner. :)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:44 pm 
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I should say it's a nice to have, but not a must have on the Roval's. Leaning towards the Tarmac or the Madone.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:29 pm 
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I was in a similar boat.
I figured I already have an aero bike (Cervelo s3) why not go with the Tarmac Ultralight. So that is the choice I ran with.


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F8 owner so take this with a pinch of salt but I,d chooose F10.... great all rounder, 13 sizes, threaded BB


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:00 pm 
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You can use your Roval wheels on all of those bikes. They are completely understated and work with any bike outside of round tube classic bikes for which they are probably too deep.

I'd go for the Dogma F10 if I were you. I recently rode one and it is really nice. Control Tech and PRO now as well afaik have brought out stem handlebar combos that are completely internal with no visible cables (on disk brake bikes). So you should be able to build up a Dogma F10 disk without visible cables and keep the visual aesthetic of the Venge Vias. That is what I intend to do down the road as well.

Edit: Ah I misread. You don't already have a disk brake wheelset. Then there isn't really an advantage to go that route. Would still recommend the Dogma though. One thing to remember on the dogma though is the geometry is really aggressive. It felt considerably lower (Size 53) than my Venge Vias disk (Size 54).

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:39 pm 
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MRM wrote:
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I'd go for the Dogma F10 if I were you. I recently rode one and it is really nice. Control Tech and PRO now as well afaik have brought out stem handlebar combos that are completely internal with no visible cables (on disk brake bikes). So you should be able to build up a Dogma F10 disk without visible cables and keep the visual aesthetic of the Venge Vias. That is what I intend to do down the road as well.
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Do you mean that the brakes lines and Di2 cables will be fully integrated in the bar/stem combo and they will be "less" visible or do you mean they will completely disappear like on the BMC SLR01 disc or the Giant propel (the disc brake and Di2 cables are all running inside the bar, then the stem and then inside the head tube so that no cables at all are visible) ?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:04 am 
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IF you are going to go discs, sell your roval wheel and buy disc specific wheels. All the mfg make disc specific wheels that are not the same as non disc wheels, as they have to strengthen the wheels for the rim brakes. Look at the weights of the rims of disc wheels, all lighter than the same wheels in rim brake form.
A lot of the wheel mfg dont even bother to bring out new wheels in rim version as they know the future is in disc. There is not much R&D devoted to rim brake wheels.

I have Roval CLX 50 on my Sworks SL5. Love the wheels and run them tubeless but the braking in the dry is ok, almost non existent in the rain.

I would wait for the SL6 in disc to come out. 28 Tubeless tires at 65 PSI. You have the best of both worlds with that set up.


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