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 Post subject: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:31 pm 
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Has anyone who owns a Venge ridden it with and without the integrated stem/bar setup? I am considering getting a disc model at some point before spring and am curious how the integrated set up performs in terms of ride, flex, etc. I know its heavy and would probably run the Sprint/SL70 Aero combo if I didn't go integrated. I would be using the flat bar if I did the ViAS set up.


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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:39 pm 
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From my understanding, though limited, the integrated bar stem is not really something you want to replace. This is because all the cables go through the cockpit into the bike.

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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:55 pm 
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rossjm11 wrote:
From my understanding, though limited, the integrated bar stem is not really something you want to replace. This is because all the cables go through the cockpit into the bike.

The newer models have downtube ports for cable routing. I'd be doing eTap so there would only be the brake cables to worry about from a drag perspective.


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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:34 pm 
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rossjm11 wrote:
From my understanding, though limited, the integrated bar stem is not really something you want to replace. This is because all the cables go through the cockpit into the bike.

In that case, Shimano Pro Vibe Aero handlebar with Pro Vibe stem can do it, right?
they can even hide di2 battery inside the steerer tube instead of somewhere middle of the bike.


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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:12 am 
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Hexsense wrote:
rossjm11 wrote:
From my understanding, though limited, the integrated bar stem is not really something you want to replace. This is because all the cables go through the cockpit into the bike.

In that case, Shimano Pro Vibe Aero handlebar with Pro Vibe stem can do it, right?
they can even hide di2 battery inside the steerer tube instead of somewhere middle of the bike.



steering tube now.. I'm behind the times.


Last edited by spdntrxi on Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:16 am, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:15 am 
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spdntrxi wrote:
Hexsense wrote:
rossjm11 wrote:
From my understanding, though limited, the integrated bar stem is not really something you want to replace. This is because all the cables go through the cockpit into the bike.

In that case, Shimano Pro Vibe Aero handlebar with Pro Vibe stem can do it, right?
they can even hide di2 battery inside the steerer tube instead of somewhere middle of the bike.



are you sure you mean battery in the steerer tube?

yes.
First found in MTB.
https://youtu.be/EnGAm46QpUk?t=4m47s

and then Pro Vibe Di2 stem for road bike also has it now.

https://youtu.be/pHoSDEXR3B0?t=5m18s


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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:30 pm 
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morganb wrote:
The newer models have downtube ports for cable routing. I'd be doing eTap so there would only be the brake cables to worry about from a drag perspective.


That only appears to apply to the non-S-works models.


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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:44 pm 
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topflightpro wrote:
morganb wrote:
The newer models have downtube ports for cable routing. I'd be doing eTap so there would only be the brake cables to worry about from a drag perspective.


That only appears to apply to the non-S-works models.

For completes yes but for frame only they have downtube ports. If I end up getting one I'll probably get an expert since its the same frame for all models (other than the lack of ports on the complete S-Works.


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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:54 pm 
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topflightpro wrote:
morganb wrote:
The newer models have downtube ports for cable routing. I'd be doing eTap so there would only be the brake cables to worry about from a drag perspective.


That only appears to apply to the non-S-works models.


Negative....I've seen 3 S-Works Sagan editions (so disc brake) and all of them have had the downtube cable entries and the hose entry in the fork.


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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:18 pm 
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It appears that I am wrong. The S-Works frames do have the ports.

And it does look like all the frames are the same 11R carbon with S-Works fork. So, other than paint, why would someone pay $4,500 for a Sagan frame or $4k for an S-Works, when they can get the Expert for $4,500?


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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
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 Post subject: Re: Venge ViAS Owners
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:36 pm 
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Never underestimate the draw of a cool paint scheme and 'S-Works' written on the side.

You are 100% correct that is what is different between those frames.

topflightpro wrote:
It appears that I am wrong. The S-Works frames do have the ports.

And it does look like all the frames are the same 11R carbon with S-Works fork. So, other than paint, why would someone pay $4,500 for a Sagan frame or $4k for an S-Works, when they can get the Expert for $4,500?


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