OK some interesting points raised here. First of all, the paradox was or is that my neck ache was caused by buying a sportive / tall head tube bike back in 2014, a DEFY ADV SL. This new position brought on more neck pain than you can imagine. So I revised my thoughts saw a bike fitter and we concluded that using data I was better suited to a racier bike with a head tube in the realms of 150 to 170 and a fit to follow. The Defy position really did not suit my natural position on a bike. I took a sensible approach and spent 6 months riding a 105 Synapse last year to eek out the injury and see how I felt on a bike. Don't forget that the 54cm Dogma is a 38cm reach bike approx and actually more or less the same reach as a 54cm Synapse once dialled in.
Regarding the internet, my default position is that I simply asked if others have found the F8 very stiff. Clearly it has shaken out an issue with my left hand, but that's not new, it ruined my guitar career and so on but it has been more pronounced on the F8 than other machines, again hence my question. Regarding my fit, I am not sure how I can pursue a change when there really is not 'much' to change but I am going for a slightly longer reach bar offset by a reduction on the stem to see how that feels.
Finally, let is be noted that I am actually 196 lb and strong. Far from 200lbs lbs
Anyway, think that about covers it. Love to all. Maybe the mods could lock this now as it is actually not going anywhere, apart from assume that the OP is a uselss divot which is rather unfair because as before it seems to focus on my inability rather than my ability. I hold my hands up you are a better bike rider than me. Nice one.