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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:40 am 
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Hi,

Is there any functional difference between current generation Force 22 and Red 22 shifters? I know the red shifter is 7g lighter, but if that is the only difference I would rather save my money and just go with Force. However, if there are real tactile differences, then I would probably spend the extra dough.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:41 am 
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From this video, no significant difference in performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFUcSrmIcKk


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:19 am 
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It looks like it's just weight (280 for Red vs 307 for Force) as both brake and shift levers are carbon on Red


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:43 am 
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Force also uses a heavier shifter body. Exact same internals.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:43 am 
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My force 10s levers disappointingly are 327gr. Don't understand where those extra grams come from.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:44 am 
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There was a difference with 10s, Force was the same of Rival and Red totally different. Not the same with 11s, everything seem identical, just weight saving with carbon or alloy for brake/shifter lever.
Red have also some titanium piece (screw ?).
My force 22 right shifter weight 159g, 114g for the left Force 1 without shifter mechanism (I remove the steel axle inside, 3g, don't seem useful).


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:01 pm 
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loudtiger wrote:
Hi,

Is there any functional difference between current generation Force 22 and Red 22 shifters? I know the red shifter is 7g lighter, but if that is the only difference I would rather save my money and just go with Force. However, if there are real tactile differences, then I would probably spend the extra dough.


Force shift levers are aluminum. Red are carbon hence the lower weight. I found out bc my force levers are rusting and wanted to change them and apparently they fit


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:02 pm 
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This o only applies to force/red22


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:10 pm 
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charlieboy52000 wrote:
Force shift levers are aluminum. Red are carbon hence the lower weight. I found out bc my force levers are rusting and wanted to change them and apparently they fit.


Wait, what? Your aluminum Force shift levers are decomposing into iron oxide?

That may sound a bit flippant, but I'm sincerely unsure what you mean. Are your aluminum levers oxidizing somehow? Unless you're riding through saltwater puddles, this seems unlikely.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:27 pm 
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Scratched & sweaty hands should be enough


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:07 pm 
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My scratched Dura-Ace 7800 levers were made from aluminum, and they never corroded under my sweaty hands. When you scratch aluminum, it forms a protective oxide layer almost instantaneously, inhibiting further corrosion. Besides, it's the shift paddles that are aluminum on Force, right? Those are hard(ish) to scratch simply because they're protected by the brake levers.

I'm interested to hear what Charlieboy actually experienced and why he's calling it "rust."


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