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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:28 pm 
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I'm 5'10'' - 1.78 meters height and have a inseam of 33.5inches 85.5cm

I'm looking at a Scott Foil 2017, Tarmac

I'm in doubt if I should use 54 M or 56 Large

I tried the Tarmac 54 and really the seat tube is almost at the limit, very high aggressive position.
Some people say 54 other 56 and I never know.

thank for the help.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:47 pm 
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What's your preferred stack height, reach, how much drop do you like to run and what's your saddle height? I was riding a small Foil and your inseam is about 4cm longer than mine at nearly the same height. I wasn't near the max seatpost height on the Foil, but I can't recall how much I had left.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:52 pm 
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RyanH wrote:
What's your preferred stack height, reach, how much drop do you like to run and what's your saddle height? I was riding a small Foil and your inseam is about 4cm longer than mine at nearly the same height. I wasn't near the max seatpost height on the Foil, but I can't recall how much I had left.


Thanks alot for the response.

I ride with 77cm saddle height.
I don't slam the bars down, I pretty much use one or two spacers.
So you are almost the same height as me ?? Shorter legs ? I know I have long legs, unfortunately.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:04 pm 
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antonio07 wrote:
I'm 5'10'' - 1.78 meters height and have a inseam of 33.5inches 85.5cm

I'm looking at a Scott Foil 2017, Tarmac

I'm in doubt if I should use 54 M or 56 Large

I tried the Tarmac 54 and really the seat tube is almost at the limit, very high aggressive position.
Some people say 54 other 56 and I never know.

thank for the help.


I wouldn't go for any of those if i were you.
This based on your prefered saddle height and what i guess would be suitable stack and reach for you.
I would instead look for a frame that is perhaps more suited in size, as prio one.
So with that, i ask you to look at Eddy Merckx 2017 model EM-525.
Before they only had the very long and low performance geometry.
Now they also have endurance geometry.
Check EM-525, medium size.
It's available both with caliper (rim) brakes and disc brakes.

http://www.eddymerckx.com/products/road ... lver-satin

Stack is 576mm and reach 380mm. That could suit you well.

Both Tarmac and Foil or Addict in size 56, is very long and low.
The 54 sized versions are very low.
I had Foil size 56 and changed to 54. But it was way to low for me.
Reach however, were better. Eddy Merckx EM-525 size medium in endurance would be much better with such body proportions

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:05 pm 
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You'll need to give us some more details about your current fit. What bike are you currently riding, how many spacers, stem angle and length? The seat tubes are short on the Foil but the stack is high.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:19 pm 
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RyanH wrote:
You'll need to give us some more details about your current fit. What bike are you currently riding, how many spacers, stem angle and length? The seat tubes are short on the Foil but the stack is high.



I'm riding a Scott Addict 2015. size 56
The bike fit person put a 90mm stem, 6 degrees stem but not going up it is used straight, 2.5 cm spacers used.
From the floor measured all the way to the middle of the handlebar is 91cm.
I think it is 64-65cm from the bb up to the center of the bars.

Are these info good ? thanks


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:35 pm 
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Given that fit information, I agree with wheelsONfire. You're better off looking for a frame that offers endurance geometry as it will put the stack and reach where you need it. The 2015 Addict has 568mm of stack and 394mm of reach. 90mm stem is not ideal, nor is 2.5cm of spacers. A size 56 Roubaix would give you the ability to run a 100cm stem slammed with room to go lower if you got a -10* or -17*.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:37 pm 
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You could use a stem 14.5mm longer on the Eddy Merckx EM 525 endurance.
Or check what stem size, 100 or 110mm you prefer with chosen handlebar (pending on handlebars reach).
You also have a higher stack at the suggested Merckx, which again would allow you to drop your spacer stack.
It would suit you well from the info you have given.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:39 pm 
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I understand, thanks
BUT, if I had to choose a SCOTT frame you would say size 54 or 56 ?
Should I stick with the 56 or maybe get a 54 as it has a smaller toptube ??


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:26 pm 
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RyanH wrote:
Given that fit information, I agree with wheelsONfire. You're better off looking for a frame that offers endurance geometry as it will put the stack and reach where you need it. The 2015 Addict has 568mm of stack and 394mm of reach. 90mm stem is not ideal, nor is 2.5cm of spacers. A size 56 Roubaix would give you the ability to run a 100cm stem slammed with room to go lower if you got a -10* or -17*.


I understand, thanks
BUT, if I had to choose a SCOTT frame you would say size 54 or 56 ?
Should I stick with the 56 or maybe get a 54 as it has a smaller toptube ??

I'm thinking if I buy a 54 I'll keep many spacers to make the bars higher but at least the toptube lenght wouldn't be bad.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:30 pm 
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[quote]
Both Tarmac and Foil or Addict in size 56, is very long and low.
The 54 sized versions are very low.
I had Foil size 56 and changed to 54. But it was way to low for me.
Reach however, were better. [quote]

It was low but did you use the spacers. I don't mind using them to put the bars higher.
How tall are you ? Inseam ??

BUT, if I had to choose a SCOTT frame you would say size 54 or 56 ?
Should I stick with the 56 or maybe get a 54 as it has a smaller toptube ??

thanks


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:33 pm 
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wheelsONfire wrote:
antonio07 wrote:
I'm 5'10'' - 1.78 meters height and have a inseam of 33.5inches 85.5cm

I'm looking at a Scott Foil 2017, Tarmac

I'm in doubt if I should use 54 M or 56 Large

I tried the Tarmac 54 and really the seat tube is almost at the limit, very high aggressive position.
Some people say 54 other 56 and I never know.

thank for the help.


I wouldn't go for any of those if i were you.
This based on your prefered saddle height and what i guess would be suitable stack and reach for you.
I would instead look for a frame that is perhaps more suited in size, as prio one.
So with that, i ask you to look at Eddy Merckx 2017 model EM-525.
Before they only had the very long and low performance geometry.
Now they also have endurance geometry.
Check EM-525, medium size.
It's available both with caliper (rim) brakes and disc brakes.

http://www.eddymerckx.com/products/road ... lver-satin

Stack is 576mm and reach 380mm. That could suit you well.

Both Tarmac and Foil or Addict in size 56, is very long and low.
The 54 sized versions are very low.
I had Foil size 56 and changed to 54. But it was way to low for me.
Reach however, were better. Eddy Merckx EM-525 size medium in endurance would be much better with such body proportions




It was low but did you use the spacers. I don't mind using them to put the bars higher.
How tall are you ? Inseam ??

BUT, if I had to choose a SCOTT frame you would say size 54 or 56 ?
Should I stick with the 56 or maybe get a 54 as it has a smaller toptube ??

thanks


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:58 pm 
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Sometimes you have to accept that not every frame is made for you. Given your information though, I'd say get a 56 since a 54 would require 4.5cm of spacers which would probably be getting to the point it's unsafe or detrimental to steering feel. But again, handling is going to be compromised, the bike is not made for you.

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The Ex's. LS Siena: 6.21kg | Parlee Z5 SLi: 5.9kg | LS Xicon: 5.76kg | C59: 5.7kg | Cervelo R5ca: 5.09kg | Fuji Altamira SE - 6.2kg | Scott Foil - 6.2kg | Evo - 5.18kg | LS Classic - 6.7kg


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:04 pm 
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Ok man thanks alot !!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:28 pm 
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RyanH wrote:
Sometimes you have to accept that not every frame is made for you. Given your information though, I'd say get a 56 since a 54 would require 4.5cm of spacers which would probably be getting to the point it's unsafe or detrimental to steering feel. But again, handling is going to be compromised, the bike is not made for you.


Eh, if he's deadset on the frame then he just needs to deal/adjust to a more aggressive position is all, nothing wrong with that.

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