I owned an F8 for a while last year. Gorgeous to look at but it was the most hyped up and singularly disappointing frame I've ever cocked my leg across in 40 years of bike riding. I cursed myself for getting caught up in all the marketing BS and in the end I hated the very sight of the thing! Couldn't wait to get that sucker sold which I did eventually even though I lost a fortune on it.Maybe the F10 is a bit better...
what was wrong with the bike? what is better on tarmac?
Absolutely everything about the Tarmac is better than the F8. Over the years I’ve been lucky enough to have ridden a lot of nice bikes including custom built steel and a number of Colnagos – a couple of C40s (still have one), Dream Plus, Extreme C and a M10 – all completely sublime. At one time I raced on one of the original Scott Addict framesets. Wow what a frame that was – stiff, light and breathtakingly fast, a total gem of a race frame but still with enough compliance to provide comfort for the longer haul. My current race bike is based around a Simplon Pavo 3 frame which at 860g is plenty light and stiff but still comfy enough for 3-4 hour jaunts.
In contrast the F8 is nothing like these frames at all. It’s a horrible relentless jack hammer of a thing that, even after a couple of hours of riding, left me feeling exhausted and sucked all the enjoyment out of my cycling time. I tried it with different wheels, several sets of tyres and even double wrapped bar tape, all to no avail. I have a couple of Chinese open mold frames (FM015 and R066) built up as training/winter bikes and they both offer a much, much superior ride to the F8, costly a tenth of the price. The best way I can describe the F8 is like spending 2 hours getting kicked up the arse by a 30 stone Sumo wrestler wearing hob nail boots! One of the happiest days in my cycling life was the day I stuck that miserable piece of extortionate garbage into a box and posted it off to it’s new owner. Mind you, my bank balance wasn’t just as happy…
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