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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:02 am 
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agfu wrote:
Well he launched it live on Facebook today but don't see any details posted

http://www.facebook.com/MCipolliniBike

Can anyone translate the details from Italian in the video?



From what I was told, frame is now 950 or 960 grams in size medium (100 plus grams savings over the previous RB1K) and now 20% stiffer.

Cipolini site isn’t updated yet so need to wait for geometry specifics.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:43 pm 
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More details here, I saw something about pricing being similar to the current NK1K

https://theone.mcipollini.com/en/


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:30 pm 
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I like the fact it looks like an evolution of the RB1K and not like something completely new. Being much lighter is a plus too.
Nice color btw:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:25 pm 
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I was at the launch event. Will post some pic soon.

Ride impression: if you like climby bike. This is not for you. It climbs well, but not light-foot like the R5/ Ultimate / Tarmac / Speciallisima. Which means it's ability to handle descent and sprinting ability are terrific. Very confident inspiring. The position is long and low. Very easy to get flatback. Colour is good, but can be better. The blue doesnt look that good in real life.

The design principle is get the look first, and try to bed performance in there second. This does not mean it doesn't perform well. It's just a different kind of bike than your ultra engineered american/ german racin bikes. It was windtunnel tested but the brand manager said that they have to make compromise about look, weight, stiffness. I.e. It if is aero but doesn't look good, they will reconsider it. Same thing for weight. They prefer to use the weight to solve ride quality puzzle (which works, which is why previous gen Italian bikes handle so well.) Reason? If you have to race at 6.8kg anyway why does it matter? Use other lighter parts but not the frame is what i was told.

The brand cares deeply about the look of the bike (like it or not), and said so when the brand manager describe their philosophy. If you cant justify spending 6 grands for a frame that weight more than a kg, look elsewhere.

Who is this for? If you have to ask it's not for you. It's the real depiction of Mario. He sprinted and win 5 giro stages, and said f*ck it when the road tilt upwards. Went back home mid race and didn't care about not finishing. Very masculine / alphamale-ish sort of bike and ride accordingly. You will find better climbing bike elsewhere. For handling and descent, this is one of the best for sure.

Overall, i like how it rides but prefer a more agile, spritely bike. I don't like the look nor the color.. heck even the brand itself, but i can appreciate their effort to be different here. There's a market for this, but it's not for everyone.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:36 pm 
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Thanks for the initial thoughts! Looking forward to the pictures.

The geometry at first glance is less extreme than the previous version but still a much lower front end than the equivalent tarmac or dogma etc


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:38 pm 
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I updated my post with pics. Try a refresh.

Btw, somebody gonna kill me for this but the new Ultegra performs better than Super Record on my test bike. Both are well tuned. I rode Ultegra on the MCM it just do most things better.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:08 pm 
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Many thanks for the review. Did the frame fit you as you'd like? I see lots of spacers, small saddle to bar drop... that's why I ask.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:35 pm 
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My height is 5'5", your average south east asian build. My saddle - bb height is just 68cm. I could and typically ride lower, but the bike is already quite low in the front so i leave it as is just to make sure I can ride in the drop comfortably. Stem is 110cm i think. The reach was just about right. Bike size is S. the white one in the last pic is not my demo bike.

Fit was good and serviceable. I was confident riding it. Could use longer demo hours.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:44 pm 
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ichobi wrote:
The design principle is get the look first, and try to bed performance in there second.


Somehow having watched Mario during all his pro years this is not hard to believe.
A flamboyant man...great sprinter as you said but also as you said interested in one facet only

This video came out today just cements that

https://player.vimeo.com/external/23309 ... ile_id=175


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:47 pm 
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^ That is one of the cheesiest promo videos I have ever seen. Looks like a preview for a poorly produced porno film.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:38 pm 
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^ That is one of the cheesiest promo videos I have ever seen. Looks like a preview for a poorly produced porno film.


+1
Looks like a bad movie about cippo the monkey on steroids, with a special appearance of a bike.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:40 am 
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Thanks for the great feedback ichobi!

I want the old RB1K just for shits n' giggles

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:18 pm 
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I would buy this bike but I don't know if is better an bmc slr01 disc. Advice me!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:53 am 
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It will accelerate slower. It will have poorer brake for obvious reason. I think the BMC is a better engineered machine and will suit more types of terrain.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:19 am 
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So has anyone else noticed that the weight loss is (largely) commensurate with the removal with the ISP? Frame aint really lighter... maybe like 30g.

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