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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:02 pm 
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Found a version on the french Trek site. Only non-disc version until now... https://projectone.trekbikes.com/be/fr/#model/emondaslr9

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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:32 pm 
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Delorre wrote:
zzmkdw wrote:
Their site has been updated with the new frames and color choices for project one. Not a huge Trek fan, but the new options have me tempted.


Not found on the US site. Only Madone, Domane etc, but no Emonda. Do you have a link?



It's there for me: http://projectone.trekbikes.com/us/en/#model/emondaslr9


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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:39 am 
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I stopped by the LBS on the way home from a ride and the owner asked if I wanted to trade in my 2015 SLR for a 2018.

He had a smile on his face.

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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:48 am 
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spartan wrote:
@jeffy go to your trek dealer and ask him. they are in stock now.

Bontrager Speed Stop Pro
Ultra-light direct mount caliper design
Tunable stopping power to dial in the perfect lever feel
Fully adjustable leverage ratio works with all road levers
95g with hollow arms and TI hardware
For use as front or rear brake
Includes brake pads for both carbon and aluminum rims


They are very light but look incredibly ugly and unaero.


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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:29 am 
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pdlpsher1 wrote:
spartan wrote:
@jeffy go to your trek dealer and ask him. they are in stock now.

Bontrager Speed Stop Pro
Ultra-light direct mount caliper design
Tunable stopping power to dial in the perfect lever feel
Fully adjustable leverage ratio works with all road levers
95g with hollow arms and TI hardware
For use as front or rear brake
Includes brake pads for both carbon and aluminum rims


They are very light but look incredibly ugly and unaero.


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Uhh... site is called weight weenies...

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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:39 pm 
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How are the Bont Speed Stop in comparison to other high end calipers in terms of braking?


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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:35 am 
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So why does the frame cost $1000 less than the 17 model yet the full bike price (top of the line) has stayed the same at $11K? I bet I can build one together with DA 9150 Di2, better wheels, and cockpit, for less.

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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:17 am 
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Then you should get the frame only and do just that.

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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:52 am 
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Noctiluxx wrote:
So why does the frame cost $1000 less than the 17 model yet the full bike price (top of the line) has stayed the same at $11K? I bet I can build one together with DA 9150 Di2, better wheels, and cockpit, for less.


How long have you been engaged in bike industry? In grand scheme of things, new models cost less. This also applies to slew of goods (e.g. electronics, appliances, etc.)


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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:44 pm 
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mpulsiv wrote:
Noctiluxx wrote:
So why does the frame cost $1000 less than the 17 model yet the full bike price (top of the line) has stayed the same at $11K? I bet I can build one together with DA 9150 Di2, better wheels, and cockpit, for less.


How long have you been engaged in bike industry? In grand scheme of things, new models cost less. This also applies to slew of goods (e.g. electronics, appliances, etc.)


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New models don't cost less. Especially new redesigns that incorporate a drop in weight. Those are usually priced at the same price as the old model or are actually increased in pricing.

It is rare to see a manufacturer drop a frameset by $1,000 on a new model. On an outgoing, clearance/blowout? Sure. My guess is there are market forces at play. Consumer demand could very well be down and/or Trek trying to get their pricing inline with Canyon coming to the USA market.

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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:30 am 
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53x12 wrote:
mpulsiv wrote:
Noctiluxx wrote:
So why does the frame cost $1000 less than the 17 model yet the full bike price (top of the line) has stayed the same at $11K? I bet I can build one together with DA 9150 Di2, better wheels, and cockpit, for less.


How long have you been engaged in bike industry? In grand scheme of things, new models cost less. This also applies to slew of goods (e.g. electronics, appliances, etc.)


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New models don't cost less. Especially new redesigns that incorporate a drop in weight. Those are usually priced at the same price as the old model or are actually increased in pricing.

It is rare to see a manufacturer drop a frameset by $1,000 on a new model. On an outgoing, clearance/blowout? Sure. My guess is there are market forces at play. Consumer demand could very well be down and/or Trek trying to get their pricing inline with Canyon coming to the USA market.


Cannondale introduced 2018 models which also priced lower www.bikerumor.com/2017/07/10/2018-canno ... ve-si-tech

Prices have been dipping over the last 3-4 years. Take a look at Giant TCR. Carbon frame with full 105 groupset for $1700 www.giant-bicycles.com/us/bikes-tcr-advanced-2018
That's a heck of a deal! A bike with specs like this was at least $2500.

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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:46 am 
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mpulsiv wrote:
53x12 wrote:
mpulsiv wrote:
Noctiluxx wrote:
So why does the frame cost $1000 less than the 17 model yet the full bike price (top of the line) has stayed the same at $11K? I bet I can build one together with DA 9150 Di2, better wheels, and cockpit, for less.


How long have you been engaged in bike industry? In grand scheme of things, new models cost less. This also applies to slew of goods (e.g. electronics, appliances, etc.)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


New models don't cost less. Especially new redesigns that incorporate a drop in weight. Those are usually priced at the same price as the old model or are actually increased in pricing.

It is rare to see a manufacturer drop a frameset by $1,000 on a new model. On an outgoing, clearance/blowout? Sure. My guess is there are market forces at play. Consumer demand could very well be down and/or Trek trying to get their pricing inline with Canyon coming to the USA market.


Cannondale introduced 2018 models which also priced lower http://www.bikerumor.com/2017/07/10/201 ... ve-si-tech

Prices have been dipping over the last 3-4 years. Take a look at Giant TCR. Carbon frame with full 105 groupset for $1700 http://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/bikes- ... anced-2018
That's a heck of a deal! A bike with specs like this was at least $2500.


What's the price for the new Synapse frameset?

It is hard to compare year to year full bike specs as the components change. Maybe the price drops or stays the same, but it is a result of the manufacturer replacing name brand components with in-house stems/seatposts and using cheaper Tektro brakes instead of Shimano/SRAM. Have to look at the details when comparing full spec to full spec. That is why comparing framesets is a much easier and reliable method.

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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:31 am 
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How is the handling of the SLR? Stable, neutral or rather quick and twitchy? I ask because in most reviews, there is, as usually, only praise for the whole behaviour of the bike, but the reviewers of granfondo-cycling.com seem to find the handling way too quick and not confidence inspiring. When a mag or website writes something bad about à bike, it has to be really bad, otherwise, they wouldn't have talked about, or rave about the handling. So, you guys currently owning an SLR in a rather large size (56 f.ex), how is the thing handling? Is it stiff enough?

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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:06 pm 
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pdlpsher1 wrote:
spartan wrote:
@jeffy go to your trek dealer and ask him. they are in stock now.

Bontrager Speed Stop Pro
Ultra-light direct mount caliper design
Tunable stopping power to dial in the perfect lever feel
Fully adjustable leverage ratio works with all road levers
95g with hollow arms and TI hardware
For use as front or rear brake
Includes brake pads for both carbon and aluminum rims


They are very light but look incredibly ugly and unaero.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Apparently the riders match... :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Trek Émonda 2018
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:38 pm 
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Price might be related to canyon coming soon. We shall see price drops from Specialized as well.


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