TonyM wrote:Conza wrote:(...) I actually have the BMC Team Machine on order. Debating whether to change that though.
What would be the alternatives that you are considering?
Honestly—I looked at every brand I knew of; and nothing really pipped the idea of the those clean lines, disc brakes, di2, carbon wheels, and it being a BMC. Also liked the colours; black/grey - timeless really. Any suggestions for something similar?
I just didn't realise the weight is probably going to be about 8kg? Like for $7.5k ($RRP 9,999) I'd have thought it'd be far lighter than that
. It is meant to arrive in January.
What has brought this to the fore (I just build up a temp bike to use until then; with the plan of selling it when the BMC arrives)
I can give more info if need be but don't want to hijack this thread from BMC - but ended up about $3.4k;
Merida Scultura 7000-E (CF4) frame
DA 9100 mechanical groupset w/ pedals
Campy Zonda wheelset
Selle Italia SLR Superflow 145mm saddle
3T pro alloy stem
3T pro alloy 42cm handlebars
It turned out to be 6.99kg and I didn't even try
. Alloy heavy everything else parts wise and they're alloy training wheels.
Obviously no disc brakes, or di2 which is what I want long term but I am built to climb, and whilst never really focusing on weight before—this has me asking - what am I getting above this with the BMC? Better brakes, electric shifting, more aero(?), but its 1kg heavier and is $4k more...
. Worth it?
wingguy wrote:If you like everything else about it then why not keep it? There's not much else out there that's going to make a big weight difference.
That's true. I can handle the 500g difference between ultegra di2 and DA di2. I just mistakenly thought that was pretty much it. I know disc adds a bit more weight, just surprised all the little things that add up to so much. Didn't think that'd need to be a focus with the BMC team machine.
wingguy wrote:That said, the new Cervelo R5 disc has been designed with very similar geometry, handling and ride quality ideas, with an <850g frame and <350g fork. It's about £1k more than the R8070 BMC for R9170 and Enves. Otherwise the Giant TCR Adv SL 1 should also be a significantly lighter system than those stated weights for the BMC, and about £1200 cheaper than the BMC for R8070 and Giant carbon wheels. Its more of a standard, sharper handling road race geo with steep angles and short wheelbase than the other two though.
This Giant
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/tcr-advanced-sl-1-disc-2018? Not such a fan of the colour. Before I got taken out by a car (and the bike with it); really liked the Giant TCR Advanced 2 (w/ DA). Definitely get the short wheelbase they have. Good point. Have you got any other suggestions?
I find it hard to comprehend that there doesn't seem to be much in this specific space? Because disc is still not yet legal in most places racing wise? Too high end?
Edit: Canyon was another brand I liked. This:
https://www.canyon.com/en-au/road/aeroad/aeroad-cf-slx-disc-8-0-di2.html 7.8kg, and with pedals 8kg. For $1k less. But not fully integrated cables.
PinaF8 wrote:I’m still awaiting for my frameset.
What do you plan to build up?