Thoughts on the 2018 BMC Teammachine?

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TonyM
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bilwit wrote:
TonyM wrote:I love that BMC Teammachine!!


--> Is there enough space between the front tire (a 25mm tire, measuring actually 26-27mm) and the down tube so that you can use some clip-on fenders/ mudguards on a 2018 BMC Teammachine?

Like the SKS raceblades:
http://www.sks-germany.com/en/products/ ... o-black-2/


hmm hard to say, but I would imagine there would be just enough clearance. Here's the fit with the Raceblades with 23mm tire on 24mm wide FLO45s:

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Thank for having taken the time to check for me! :thumbup:

That looks good! I suppose it could indeed be a tight fit depending on the real size of the tire and the rims but it seems possible at least.
This point is important to me as I intend to use the Teamxmachine Disc as a "rain bike".

Actually I intended to buy a Roadmachine02 (with integrated fenders/ mudguards) but it seems that the handling is really much different than a real race bike like the Teamxmachine. And I want to ride in the winter and in the rain also with a race bike 8)

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Off topic but props to the comic library choices.

bilwit wrote:Picked it up today

I'll make its own thread for this when I have it built, but I don't have a fancy camera.

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All the bits that came with it:
Frame Sz54+Fork+Seatpost+Bottom Bracket+Compression Plug 1.620kg
BMC Stem 110mm 163.7g (thinking about putting an Extralite Hyperstem on there instead.. would save 80g.. not sure if I want to risk the fork though)
Fork (uncut) 340g
Compression Plug 29.8g

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by TonyM

--> Are these the Shimano C40 or C60?


ninjasloth wrote:
AndreLM wrote:Also like the rim brake version, but it is not clear if one can route electronic shifting through the stem as the disc brake version.


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Looks like rimbrake with ICS is the way
to go.

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TonyM wrote:--> Are these the Shimano C40 or C60?


Definitely C40s. They just look more pronounced in the pic because Porte rides a kid's size bike :lol:

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Yes he is 172 cm (approx. 5'8) and his Teamxmachine is size 47.

I am 171cm and I have just ordered a Roadmachine in size 51...but I don't race any more... :mrgreen:
Should arrive end of October/ beginning of November.

Now the next project would be my Teammachine SLR01 disc for the spring (or winter).
For this I am now waiting for the availability of the Shimano Dura Ace powermeter and the availability of the Shimano C40 disc clincher.... :wink:

I could see one Teammachine SLR01 Disc in the Team red colour today and the colour really looks good! :thumbup:
However the down tube is really big and certainly not very aero :evil: (and I usually bike alone, so aero is also a concern for me unfortunately).

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I always thought he was shorter because I knew he rode 47/48cm bikes. If he really is 5'8" that's one of the most extreme downsizings in the peloton. I believe Cav rode a really small Specialized with Quickstep too.

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How far are you with your build? any pictures?


bilwit wrote:Picked it up today

I'll make its own thread for this when I have it built, but I don't have a fancy camera.

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TonyM wrote:How far are you with your build? any pictures?


bilwit wrote:Picked it up today

I'll make its own thread for this when I have it built, but I don't have a fancy camera.

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I've had it built for a few weeks now, was going to wait a bit until I could get my hands on a camera to do it justice but since you asked, I made a thread:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=147890

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bilwit wrote:
TonyM wrote:How far are you with your build? any pictures?


bilwit wrote:Picked it up today

I'll make its own thread for this when I have it built, but I don't have a fancy camera.

Image


I've had it built for a few weeks now, was going to wait a bit until I could get my hands on a camera to do it justice but since you asked, I made a thread:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=147890


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Q: what would the weight of this:https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/au-en/bikes/road/altitude-teammachine-slr01_disc-one/ likely end up being?

Size 56.
It's all about the adventure :o .

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Conza wrote:Q: what would the weight of this:https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/au-en/bikes/road/altitude-teammachine-slr01_disc-one/ likely end up being?

Size 56.


The 2018 Teammachine SLR01 Disc Team with Dura Ace Di2 is claimed to be 15.5lbs (=7.0kg).
So with Ultegra Di2 instead of the Dura Ace Di2 you would add approx. 250-260g and the DT Spline instead of the DT Dicut would add approx. 50g. So it should be approx. 16.09 lbs (=7.3kg) I would say.

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I would guess around 7.5kg without pedals.

TonyM left out the heavier bars and saddle.

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TonyM wrote:
Conza wrote:Q: what would the weight of this:https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/au-en/bikes/road/altitude-teammachine-slr01_disc-one/ likely end up being?
Size 56.


The 2018 Teammachine SLR01 Disc Team with Dura Ace Di2 is claimed to be 15.5lbs (=7.0kg).
So with Ultegra Di2 instead of the Dura Ace Di2 you would add approx. 250-260g and the DT Spline instead of the DT Dicut would add approx. 50g. So it should be approx. 16.09 lbs (=7.3kg) I would say.


TobinHatesYou wrote:I would guess around 7.5kg without pedals.

TonyM left out the heavier bars and saddle.


Woah, ok. What am I likely missing then?

I went off the spec sheet and added everything up individually (I got 6.807kg) :shock: .

Frame: Teammachine SLR01, Disc-specific, Size: 56 (1045g)
Tubing ACE Technology, 01 Premium Carbon
Fork: Teammachine SLR, 01 Premium Carbon, Integrated Cockpit, Disc-specific (405g)
Seatpost: Teammachine SLR01 "D" Premium Carbon, 15mm offset (195g)
Rear Shock: Gears2x11

Chainwheel: Shimano Ultegra, 52-36T
Cassette: Shimano Ultegra, 11-30T
Chain: Shimano Ultegra
Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra Di2
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra Di2
Shifter: Shimano Ultegra Di2, Hydraulic
Brakes: Shimano Ultegra Di2, SM-RT800 Rotors (160/140)

Ultegra R8070 di2 disc groupset total = 2,628g.

Handlebar: BMC RAB 02, ergo top shape, compact bend (250g?)
Stem: BMC ICS 01 - Integrated Cockpit Design, w/ computer and camera mount (105g?)
Seat: Fizik Antares R5 K'ium (205g)
Hubs: DT Swiss PRC 1400 SPLINE db 35 Carbon, Thru Axle (12mm) // Rims: DT Swiss PRC 1400 SPLINE db 35 Carbon (F: 645g, R: 789g)
Tyres: Vittoria Corsa, 25mm (255g * 2) = 510g

Plus pedals DA 9100 (234g).

Totals: 7,041g. I guess I am missing tubing/cables? But that'd be included in the groupset weight surely?
It's all about the adventure :o .

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that weight is not gonna happened. Have CX01 ( frame & fork weight +-50g same as SLR01 :shock: ) , with 1500g wheelset, sram red + trp spyre slc, pirelli 28mm tires, latex tubes, 187g aliante r3, 200g easton ec90 slx3 bar , 110g stem, keo blade ti pedals .... weight is 7550g .

So add 150-200g for heavier cockpit/ saddle , 500g+ for Ultegra vs Red22 and you'll have your number.

If memory serves well GF01 disc ( 1200 frame, 400 fork, 202 post ) with full ultegra hydro and 1600g wheels was advertised by BMC as 8.1kg without pedals. In that claim I believe.
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Conza wrote:
TonyM wrote:
Conza wrote:Q: what would the weight of this:https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/au-en/bikes/road/altitude-teammachine-slr01_disc-one/ likely end up being?
Size 56.


The 2018 Teammachine SLR01 Disc Team with Dura Ace Di2 is claimed to be 15.5lbs (=7.0kg).
So with Ultegra Di2 instead of the Dura Ace Di2 you would add approx. 250-260g and the DT Spline instead of the DT Dicut would add approx. 50g. So it should be approx. 16.09 lbs (=7.3kg) I would say.


TobinHatesYou wrote:I would guess around 7.5kg without pedals.

TonyM left out the heavier bars and saddle.


Woah, ok. What am I likely missing then?
.
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Totals: 7,041g. I guess I am missing tubing/cables? But that'd be included in the groupset weight surely?

Just off the top of my head you've missed out BB, headset, expander plug, spacers, bartape, inner tubes, thru-axles, maybe mech hanger, maybe seatpost clamp, maybe flatmount adapters and bolts, any grease and paste used.

That stuff adds up. The stock innertubes alone would account for upwards of 200g

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