Steel OR Carbon / Calipers or Disc
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I recently got a steel bike. It blows my Canyon CF SLX out of the water. It's sooo smooth and just floats over rough Tarmac that I would bounce around on with the Canyon. The Canyon is a great bike but it feels very flimsy compared to the steel bike.
When I put my deposit down on the bike, I was going back and forth between rim and disc brakes. I finally went for rim because I prefer climbing and I take it easy on the descents. I'm a reasonably confident descender who used to race downhill MTB so I've never felt the need for anything more than the rim brakes I've got.
When the bike arrived in March, it rode so much better than I thought it was going to. The Canyon never gets taken out these days, although having said that, I am eyeing up some hill climbs this year so it would be brought back into service due to being about 1.5kg lighter.
When I put my deposit down on the bike, I was going back and forth between rim and disc brakes. I finally went for rim because I prefer climbing and I take it easy on the descents. I'm a reasonably confident descender who used to race downhill MTB so I've never felt the need for anything more than the rim brakes I've got.
When the bike arrived in March, it rode so much better than I thought it was going to. The Canyon never gets taken out these days, although having said that, I am eyeing up some hill climbs this year so it would be brought back into service due to being about 1.5kg lighter.
Oh I forgot to mention, I ride live and ride in Japan. The Japanese weather is pretty stable so I tend to only ride if the weather forecast is favourable. I rarely get caught out in rain. If I lived/rode in my home country (northern England) , I might be tempted to go with discs.
Yes, have been told that type of steel is lightest and strongest...now, how do I find a frame that is made with it? My current bike is 22 years old, columbus brain tubing. Everything is just wearing out. It weights 24.5 pounds or 11.1 kg. A bit heavy.
Ready for a bit of a more upright ride. No more racing or crits.
Ready for a bit of a more upright ride. No more racing or crits.
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I will say that disc brakes are amazing. It would be hard for me to buy a new road bike without them, regardless of that frame's material. I have Shimano hydro disc on 2 cx bikes and my wife ahs them on 2 cx bikes as well. They're simply amazing.
It's also easier to run bigger tires with the disc brakes, without going to long rear caliper brakes.
For material, I'm a fan of Life tubing if you aren't too big a rider. If you can get a builder that has OX platinum in stock still that is also a great option. Reynbolds 853.
It's hard to go wrong with modern steel tubing. I would be more concerned with the builder than a particular tubeset.
Chris King Cielo, Speedvagen, Breadwinner, all great and readily accessible.
It's also easier to run bigger tires with the disc brakes, without going to long rear caliper brakes.
For material, I'm a fan of Life tubing if you aren't too big a rider. If you can get a builder that has OX platinum in stock still that is also a great option. Reynbolds 853.
It's hard to go wrong with modern steel tubing. I would be more concerned with the builder than a particular tubeset.
Chris King Cielo, Speedvagen, Breadwinner, all great and readily accessible.
I'd take a good look at the Trek Domane, quite frankly. I prefer the simplicity, functionality and lighter weight of a good rim brake. I've never wanted for more, so the benefits I just mentioned outweigh any advantage that discs may enjoy in mud, snow and hard rain, which if you're into riding in those conditions, a lot, then have at it. I do have a dedicated rain bike for the road, and the biggest difference is that it has full fenders (far more important a feature in the rain than whether your bike is disc or rim braked), but I still chose rim brakes for it as well. It's rare that I will start a ride in torrential rain these days, but I'm often on the roads after a rain or may get caught out during a ride, and where I live the roads can often remain wet for long periods. The water and crud you get bombarded with from the road and tire spray is worse than what the clouds drop on you, hence fenders are a must, with good flaps. But if you wanted to run really big tires on your road bike, like larger than 28mm (since the new rim caliper brakes will accommodate most tire sizes up to that), then discs are really your only option. Or a mountain bike, which tires that size are probably best suited for.
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stevenak wrote:Yes, have been told that type of steel is lightest and strongest...now, how do I find a frame that is made with it? My current bike is 22 years old, columbus brain tubing. Everything is just wearing out. It weights 24.5 pounds or 11.1 kg. A bit heavy.
Ready for a bit of a more upright ride. No more racing or crits.
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S-Works Roubaix only comes in disc, and carbon. There it seems to answer all your questions.
You mention endurance but also some short triathlons - is the Triathlons participation (for fun) or are you looking for a bike that will be suited to fast racing and be at the pointy end of the field? I wouldn't usually put Endurance and Triathlon in the same space.
Do you want something towards the racy end of the spectrum or more towards the touring? Do you want to be able to run full length fenders or racks?
What sort of climate and weather do you ride in?
Is this going to be your only bike?
Do you want something towards the racy end of the spectrum or more towards the touring? Do you want to be able to run full length fenders or racks?
What sort of climate and weather do you ride in?
Is this going to be your only bike?
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Focus Paralane
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Merckx EM-525 Endurance geometry (=higher stack shorter reach)
http://www.eddymerckx.com/products/road/male
BMC Roadmachine (02 or 01)
http://www.bmc-switzerland.com/int-en/b ... tegra_di2/
https://www.focus-bikes.com/int/road/paralane
Merckx EM-525 Endurance geometry (=higher stack shorter reach)
http://www.eddymerckx.com/products/road/male
BMC Roadmachine (02 or 01)
http://www.bmc-switzerland.com/int-en/b ... tegra_di2/
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Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
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Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
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