Greatly appreciate the response. Agree purchasing sight unseen has its concerns. Based on what I have read I am less concerned about quality than how the bike will ultimately ride. I have owned a lot of bikes, some feeling so much better to ride (stable, compliant, forgiving) and others not, but I have not invested the time to really understand why one feels so much better than another.
As I move into my 60's I am looking for something less racy with more stack but still a fast bike to keep up with the folks I ride with that tend to be 20 years younger.
Hence the question about frames with a more relaxed geometry. The Workswell 93 http://www.workswellbikes.com/PRODDUCT/ROAD/Endurance/20170117/12.html
is of interest but they are not responding to my inquiries.
I have the disc version of said frame on its way from China. And have always had good communications with Workswell (There have been issues with the frame, which was supposed to fit 28mm tires, but it turns out they mean actual 28mm tires and most come out wider on wide rims. So I have mailed them about a thousand times, flipflopping about whether I should wait or a new prototype or not, Coco has always answered to the best of her abilities.) You can try firstname.lastname@example.org
to try and reach her.
As I don't have the frame yet, I can't tell you much about compliance and ride feel. Since mine will be disc, and yours probably the 800g version, I don't even know if my experiences with the frame would translate to yours. I'll post the bike when I have it and it is built though.
As far as stable goes... Compare the wheelbase, headset angle and chainstay length to bikes you have liked. Shorter wheelbase, shorter stays -> lively and thus less stable. Steeper headset angle -> lively and thus less stable.
Comfort-wise: 28mm tires (if they fit
), something like the Ergon CF3 seatpost and nice thick handlebar tape should help, but most importantly -> the relaxed position will help.