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 Post subject: List of the finest bikes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:25 am 
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This list shall carry the brands of the very finest bicycle producers in the world. Feel free to add what you think is ready for the list, but please first have a look at it and then leave it free of C´dale, Trek ... Certainly nice bikes, but not for this list. And here it goes

Titanium:

Moots
Independent Fabrication
Bill Holland
Seven
Kish
Strongframes

Steel:

Bohemian
Vanilla
Peter Mooney
Llewllyn
Kirk
Strongframes
True North
Kish

Carbon:

Parlee
Calfee

Aluminium:

Sofa King


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Titanium:

Moots
Independent Fabrication
Bill Holland
Seven
Kish
Strongframes

Steel:

Bohemian
Vanilla
Peter Mooney
Llewllyn
Kirk
Strongframes
True North
Kish

Carbon:

Parlee
Calfee
Crumpton

Aluminium:

Sofa King


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:10 am 
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Location: Italia
Titanium:

Moots
Independent Fabrication
Bill Holland
Seven
Kish
Strongframes


Steel:

Bohemian
Vanilla
Peter Mooney
Llewllyn
Kirk
Strongframes
True North
Kish
Scapin www.scapin.com

Carbon:

Parlee
Calfee
Crumpton

Aluminium:

Sofa King

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:36 am 
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Why isnt Scott among the best carbon frames? and how could you name crompton - very new, dont you think?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:43 am 
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Sofa King ??? What's cool in a Sofa King bike?

The whole list (with very few exceptions) seems to me to be a nosense...

Bye, Benz.


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benz76 wrote:
Sofa King ??? What's cool in a Sofa King bike?

The whole list (with very few exceptions) seems to me to be a nosense...

Bye, Benz.


i am in agreeance with Benz :evil:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:16 pm 
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Titanium:

Moots
Independent Fabrication
Bill Holland
Seven
Kish
Strongframes
Spectrum


Steel:

Bohemian
Vanilla
Peter Mooney
Llewllyn
Kirk
Strongframes
True North
Kish
Scapin www.scapin.com
Casati
Richard Sachs
Colombine
Brian Bayliss

Carbon:

Parlee
Calfee
Crumpton
Walser

Aluminium:

Casati
Sofa King

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Ahhh, i would go with Merlin over SEVEN anytime :!: i was disgusted when i saw a custom seven with a uneven rear triangle :x


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Cyfac, gentlemen, the last word in aluminum frames. Custom jobs also available. I have a road and a TT frame(pictures soon!) and I have owned many frames. These are the best. The best thing about them is that you do not necessarily have to go with the carbon rear for extra comfort-the aluminum chainstays are alright-comfortable and plenty stiff. You could go buy another frame-but why?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:39 pm 
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This is my list:
These are the best bicycle producers in the world:

Carbon:
Scott
Giant
Trek

Titanium:
Litespeed
Seven
Merlin

Alloy:
Scapin
Pegoretti


Aluminium:
Cannondale
Klein
Principia

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This list is a little humerous. It seems to be almost exclusively small American Manuf. Where are all the Italian bike builders. The Italians have in my opinion been making the best bikes in the World for years. Some people may feel that Pinarello's, Derosa's, Colnago's (I could probably go on and on this is just the "big three") are overpriced, but they are still making some of the best bikes in the world.


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I agree with delphi although Klein has lost it´s feel with that carbon b-stay crappy like a Pinarello Prince.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:11 pm 
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Gentleman,

as I said in the first mail. Please leave it free of some brands. Not that Scott or Trek make no good carbon frames. They certainly do. To put them on a par with Parlee, however, misses out what the list is about. The factor that distinguishes the bikes on the list from Treks and Scotts is that they do not only offer perfect ride characteristics. They are also marked by an art-like craftmanship. Please check the websites of Bohemian for instance to see the difference. Most of the producers do only custom work - not necessarily for pros - but for those who appreciate their talent not only for offering the perfect ride but also for the jewellike bikes they create. Moreover, to see Merlin or even Litespeed in a row with a Moots or an IF is really missing out either the ride- or the artistic-factor.


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Personally i think that the best alluminium frame are made in USA.
For Example a Cannondale Frame (alluminium) has a Life time warranty, a De Rosa Frame has only 2 years warranty. Cannondale Frame is make with custom tubing, De Rosa Dual is make with standard tubing (Dedacciai)

Probably the italian frames are the most beautiful but they cost too much.
Colnago C40 - C50, De Rosa King, Pinarello Prince/Dogma are over prized.

It's only my opinion
I think that a Scott CR1 is "faster" than a De Ronsa King / Colnago C40-C50.

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Delpi wrote:
Personally i think that the best alluminium frame are made in USA.
For Example a Cannondale Frame (alluminium) has a Life time warranty,...

Didn't the thread starter say don't mention the C-word? ;)
They wouldn't offer a lifetime warranty if they wouldn't be famous for broken frames. :lol:

No offense, but IMHO the best Al frames come from Principia in Denmark.

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