Tire Choice for Giant SLR 0 Carbon Wheels - 23mm width

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amtbr
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by amtbr

So I have some Giant SLR 0 Carbon wheels that came with my TCR Advanced Pro 0 and I cannot for the life of me find good tires that I can easily mount on these rims. The stock Giant tires that came with it were 23 mm and mounted really easily, but they wore out extremely fast. According to Giant's website, they are 23mm wide and are also tubeless ready. I have tried Conti GP 4000s II at 23 mm and some 4-Seasons at 28 mm as well as Michelin Pro 4 at 25 mm. Both of the Conti's were a nightmare to mount, yes I know how to mount tires, and I don't want to deal with a horrible mounting situation on the side of the road when I get a flat. The Michelin fares slightly better, but is still extremely difficult to get on but can be done. Oddly the Michelin at 25 mm measures almost a 29 when mounted and handles horribly. I completely gave up on the Conti 4-Seasons, even at 28 mm, couldn't get em on. To me it seems like the difficulty is the extra lip or hook at the top of the rim, I've never had fancy wheels like these, just junky mavics.

I am looking at the Vittoria Corsa G in 23 or 25 and Specialized Turbo S-Works. Anyone have ideas or suggestions? I am looking for some good summer tires that are duable, ie not race day only tires. I'd rather avoid costly purchases that I can't use or require superhuman hands to mount. Thanks

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by nemeseri

While I've never owned a tubeless rim, they usually have a central channel in the middle of the rim you can push the clincher bead into. This helps with mounting the tires. HED made a video showing this in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-XFMGDO2rA

I also used to have a very tight fulcrum rim I had problems to mount my gp4000 on. I started to cary this on longer rural rides:
https://www.amazon.com/Kool-Stop-Tire-B ... B001AYML7K

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by mpulsiv

Wait, you are trying to mount Continental 4000 SII tire on the tubeless Giant SLR wheel?


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I have the same wheels on my TCR Advanced SL and didn't have problems mounting Continental GP4000S II clinchers on them (23mm front, 25mm rear). In fact, they where a lot easier to mount on the SLR 0 compared to my previous carbon clinchers.

As others suggested, the center channel of the wheel is your friend. Also, start from the opposite of the valve stem.

Another trick I've used in the past was to stretch the tire on another set of wheels on which they are easier to mount. I've left them for some time at 120-130 psi. They where a lot easier to mount after that...

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Have a set of Schwalbe Pro Ones mounted on the same wheels and no issues. As previous posts have mentioned, use the center channel.

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martroy wrote:Another trick I've used in the past was to stretch the tire on another set of wheels on which they are easier to mount. I've left them for some time at 120-130 psi. They where a lot easier to mount after that...


This works really well with Michelin Pro4's they do get bigger though.
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by amtbr

mpulsiv wrote:Wait, you are trying to mount Continental 4000 SII tire on the tubeless Giant SLR wheel?


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Its "tubeless" ready. So I guess I can convert them to tubeless with the appropriate tire? Alright guys, I'll work on my technique. I thought I knew how to mount tires. So much swearing trying to mount the Conti 4-Seasons and blisters on my thumbs yesterday... Thank you to everyone who chimed in.

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amtbr wrote:
mpulsiv wrote:Wait, you are trying to mount Continental 4000 SII tire on the tubeless Giant SLR wheel?


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Its "tubeless" ready. So I guess I can convert them to tubeless with the appropriate tire? Alright guys, I'll work on my technique. I thought I knew how to mount tires. So much swearing trying to mount the Conti 4-Seasons and blisters on my thumbs yesterday... Thank you to everyone who chimed in.


Giant SLR wheel is tubeless. Continental tires are not tubeless so put them aside. Schwalbe Pro One tubeless is a fantastic tire www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-b ... eless-2016


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by Marin

Mounting tires on tubeless rims is actually easier than on regular ones - if you know how to do it. I always mount my tires WITHOUT tire levers now because I can and to protect my latex tubes.

The trick is to push the bead into the central channel all around the rim (repeatedly) so the yet-unmounted part of the bead becomes that little bit slacker until you can push it over the hook with your fingers.

With the same trick, I can also remove most tires without levers.

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If the 1st bead goes onto the rim without levers, there's no reason the 2nd one won't.

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by htc

I run Conti GP4000s II on my SLR0 Aero Wheels, they were a bugger to fit first time around, but the tire will stretch over time anyway - as said above the central groove really is your friend on these wheels.

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by samuel86

I have the same SLR0 30mm clinchers on my TCR ADV PRO 0. Changing a flat tire is a bitch! I have just swapped from my second pair of Giant P-SLR 1 23c to Continental GP 4000s ii 25c and they were hard to get on. Actually its almost impossible to get a tire lever under the tire lip to pry it off. I am glad someone else is having as much difficulty as what I deal with haha.

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by amtbr

samuel86 wrote:I have the same SLR0 30mm clinchers on my TCR ADV PRO 0. Changing a flat tire is a bitch! I have just swapped from my second pair of Giant P-SLR 1 23c to Continental GP 4000s ii 25c and they were hard to get on. Actually its almost impossible to get a tire lever under the tire lip to pry it off. I am glad someone else is having as much difficulty as what I deal with haha.


So I had an old GP II 4000 in 23 laying around and I managed to mount it after watching the videos posted on this thread, but shit it wasn't easy. I'm hoping to find some magical tire in 23 or 25 that will mount somewhat easily to these rims. Getting it on at home is one thing, on the side of the road is another...


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