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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:44 pm 
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Lieblingsleguan wrote:
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It's funny to me how one of the lead guys in aero at Specialized more or less dismisses the Venge in all social media posts and interview since the release of the new Tarmac.

Just curious if they're finally working on a light aero frameset, shave some weight off the ViAS already! :(

If it's true that the new Tarmac is about as aero as the old Venge, I see no reason for a model in between the Venge Vias and the Tarmac. For an aero all-rounder, put some deep wheels and a set of narrow aero bars on the Tarmac. If climbing is pretty much never on the menu for you and aero is really everything for you and you want the very last marginal gain in terms of that, go with the Venge (if you can live with the looks of it...).

I just don't love allround bikes in larger sizes that much, that's where I like the aero frames better.

Given that most Specialized bikes are on a 3 year cycle (at least Tarmac, Venge, Stumpjumper/EpicHT, Epic full suspension and the ViAS being released in 2015 - I'm hoping there will be a new Venge in 2018 with a considerable weight reduction (as seen in latest Tarmac, Epics etc.).


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:32 pm 
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Glad to hear they are coming out with the 0 offset


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:51 pm 
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Pschnei3 wrote:
Glad to hear they are coming out with the 0 offset


Can someone educate me with "0 offset"? What is the advantage of having it vs not having it? Is it stiffness issue?


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:22 pm 
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DCcyclist wrote:
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Glad to hear they are coming out with the 0 offset


Can someone educate me with "0 offset"? What is the advantage of having it vs not having it? Is it stiffness issue?


its a fitment issue.

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:15 pm 
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Is the setback 25mm? I saw my first SL6 in person today at another LBS. It was not an UL but a black/white 56 with CLX 50 and DA. The post didn’t look like 25 setback. I have a FSA SB25 on my SL5 and it seems to be set back much further. I didn’t take any pics but will next time I’m there. BTW it’s a great looking bike in person can’t wait to get my UL frame.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:42 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:17 pm 
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orange wrote:
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I would consider the girls matte black with hot pink lettering bike even.


so would I but they don't make it in a 58 :(
Yes they do...

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:57 am 
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liam7020 wrote:
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What weight penalty for direct mount are you referring to? Like for like Shimano Direct Mount brakes are a little (10-20grams) lighter than their traditional equivalents. And if you want to go hog wild the EE brakes work (with an adapter for smaller sizes).


I don’t use Shimano brakes. The TRP R920 brakes I have on my Tarmac are sub 260g, soon to be replaced by a pair of TRP R979SL calipers with a real weight of 235g which probably represents a saving of 50-60g over the DA direct mount brakes. :wink:

The EE brakes are indeed very light but they’re hideously expensive and, to my eye, are not particularly aesthetic.

There is a middle ground called Bontrager Speedstop, similar design to EE brakes but not as expensive (~100-150 each on Ebay from time to time) and not as light (112g each).
They also releasing new Bontrager Speedstop Pro which is 9x grams, using more hollow and Titanium parts to save weight at higher price which can be ordered new from Trek.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:48 am 
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Nefarious86 wrote:
orange wrote:
Pschnei3 wrote:

I would consider the girls matte black with hot pink lettering bike even.


so would I but they don't make it in a 58 :(
Yes they do...



the website says it maxes out at 56cm ?


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:10 pm 
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I had one on order untill today, change of plans tho. They do exist.

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:12 pm 
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Nefarious86 wrote:
I had one on order untill today, change of plans tho. They do exist.


thanks - will check it out. What are you getting instead ?


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:10 pm 
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Haven't worked it out yet. Selling almost everything and going Disc something +2 or 3 sets of wheels.

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
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Having a hard time deciding between factor o2 and the SL6.

Both similar price but factor o2 frameset comes with one piece carbon handlebar.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:20 pm 
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I would pick sl6 still. Got everything you need for a race bike.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:59 pm 
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Navik wrote:
Having a hard time deciding between factor o2 and the SL6.

Both similar price but factor o2 frameset comes with one piece carbon handlebar.


Thats a really hard choice!

Based on looks I'd go for the Factor, based on marketing hype about performance I'd go for the Tarmac (e.g. http://road.cc/content/review/229824-sp ... tarmac-sl6 ) Also I think the Factor is around $1000 more expensive. The Tarmac is quite well priced relative to other 'super bikes' out there.

I demoed a Factor ONE, so I'm sure you could convince your local dealer to let you ride an O2. My local spesh dealers also allow test rides. Go ride them and choose from there!

Also make sure you can get into the right position with the integrated bars. I'd love to get some Metrons for my XR4, but I have the tops/levers angled down slightly so I couldnt get comfy with an integrated setup.

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