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ninjasloth
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by ninjasloth on Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:19 am
Nefarious86 wrote:
Interestingly, only two of the 16 Tarmac models (none of the S Works) come with their own crankset now. If anything, their move to SRAM and Shimano cranks suggests a move away from OSBB.
OSBB is literally a sluttier BB30
Accepts any sizes
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53x12
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by 53x12 on Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:30 am
ninjasloth wrote:Nefarious86 wrote:
Interestingly, only two of the 16 Tarmac models (none of the S Works) come with their own crankset now. If anything, their move to SRAM and Shimano cranks suggests a move away from OSBB.
OSBB is literally a sluttier BB30
Accepts any sizes
My understanding has been that OSBB = BB30 in alloy frames and OSBB = PF30 in carbon frames. OSBB is just Specialized way of calling BB30. BB30 = Cannondale's design and Specialized, being Specialized loathed to do any kind of advertising for a competitors system, even if it was a open standard.
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53x12
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by 53x12 on Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:53 am
Nefarious86 wrote:It's a completely unique and useless item.
Which means....Specialized just might do it.
"Marginal gains are the only gains when all that's left to gain is in the margins."
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Asteroid
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by Asteroid on Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:00 pm
Nefarious86 wrote:Clear as mud
And I dont see them making a through axle non disk hub. It's a completely unique and useless item.
Man, I love that graphic. Even though it makes my head spin.
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topflightpro
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by topflightpro on Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:07 pm
Nefarious86 wrote:I don't think they're quite that suicidal. They learnt the lesson with the SCS mess you would hope.
Or maybe Specialized didn't and is attempting to use Thru-Axle on all bikes to force people to buy new Roval wheels.
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mpulsiv
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by mpulsiv on Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:24 pm
53x12 wrote:My understanding has been that OSBB = BB30 in alloy frames and OSBB = PF30 in carbon frames. OSBB is just Specialized way of calling BB30. BB30 = Cannondale's design and Specialized, being Specialized loathed to do any kind of advertising for a competitors system, even if it was a open standard.
The OSBB is basically the same as BB30 but with a little tighter tolerances and a 0.5mm difference in the clip-to-clip dimension.
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CostcoHotDogs
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by CostcoHotDogs on Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:49 pm
53x12 wrote:Thru-axle for a rim brake version doesn't make sense to me. Seems like they are trying to reinvent something that really doesn't need to be reinvented as it has been working fine. If true, Specialized attempting to be different, just to be different. I'm sure Specialized will come out with some data about x% stiffer bla bla bla and people will eat it up.
I don't see this as being much different than when 26" MTBs transitioned to disc. There were several years where frames and forks had mounting options for both disc and vee brakes. I could see the non-SWorks Tarmacs being both disc and rim brake compatible to keep SKUs and tooling costs down.
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CostcoHotDogs
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by CostcoHotDogs on Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:51 pm
topflightpro wrote:Or maybe Specialized didn't and is attempting to use Thru-Axle on all bikes to force people to buy new Roval wheels.
or, at the very least, forcing them to buy $38 worth of new endcaps for the hubs.
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wingguy
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by wingguy on Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:53 pm
topflightpro wrote:Or maybe Specialized didn't and is attempting to use Thru-Axle on all bikes to force people to buy new Roval wheels.
Seriously, did everyone miss the bit where all the new Tarmacs photographed so far in this thread have perfectly normal QR wheels, skewers and dropouts?
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Bjobjo
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by Bjobjo on Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:36 pm
They just released a new video with peter sagan drifting with the new diverge on the roof. They said something about 15th of june. Perhaps they will also release the tarmac then