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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:57 pm 
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Hopefully they take this opportunity to make clearance for larger tires.
It is a crime that high end bikes can't take a fairly large tire.
They should design the frame and fork so that the brake pads are near the bottom of the adjustment range, and also as much room in the fork and chain stays as possible.
It is carbon, you can do what you want with that stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:10 pm 
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How big? IMHO no hi-end road bike needs anything bigger than 25mm. Unless you ride on cobbles or something...

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:24 pm 
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The current Tarmac already clears large tires. The rear brake pads are close to the bottom of the slots. My 25mm tires are a little over 27mm on wide rims and there's room for more.

If you need more tire you are on the wrong bike.

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:40 pm 
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My friend runs 28mm tires on his 17 Tarmac. I'd say that's plenty.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:53 pm 
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In fact I have more clearance than my friend's Domane with rim brakes!

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:03 pm 
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The perfect Tarmac Disc for me: 25mm tires and some room for fenders

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:11 pm 
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Isn't that like putting winter tires on a Corvette?

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:14 pm 
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TonyM wrote:
I would love to have a S-works Tarmac disc but the current version doesn't seem to very convenient when it is coming to change wheels :-(

from the Bike Radar review (http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/cate ... isc-48977/)
"The downside, however, is that you can’t switch the rear wheel without 30 minutes of work and the loss of a couple of gears. Changing wheels requires changing derailleur hangers and adjusting the brake caliper. In our experience, it also meant that you couldn’t cross-chain in the 36/11 or 22 without the chain snagging on the backside of the big ring."

and thru-axles would be nice
or Mavic Speed Release thru-axle system which has been also adopted by Enve now (same company)

That review is a little outdated. Specialized got rid of their SCS system, now it's standard wheel spacing. Any 135QR wheel will work now.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:16 pm 
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ergott wrote:
Isn't that like putting winter tires on a Corvette?

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Yes!
Life is too short to ride crappy bikes in the winter!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:18 pm 
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CrimsonKarter21 wrote:
That review is a little outdated. Specialized got rid of their SCS system, now it's standard wheel spacing. Any 135QR wheel will work now.


Good to know!! So no update on this for the 2018 models? That will stay like this? Or thru-axle for 2018?

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An STI or BMW with X drive would be a hell of a lot more fun on the winter. Horses for courses.

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:04 am 
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TonyM wrote:
CrimsonKarter21 wrote:
That review is a little outdated. Specialized got rid of their SCS system, now it's standard wheel spacing. Any 135QR wheel will work now.


Good to know!! So no update on this for the 2018 models? That will stay like this? Or thru-axle for 2018?


Manufacturers have been moving away from QR's in last 2 seasons. I doubt we will see disc frames with QR's on 2018 frames. Same goes for post-mount (4 year old technology).

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:10 am 
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TonyM wrote:
The perfect Tarmac Disc for me: 25mm tires and some room for fenders


2016 Tarmac disc clear 30mm Schwalbe Pro One tire. Trek Domane disc comes with Bontrager R3 32mm tire with room to spare.

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 Post subject: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:07 am 
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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:09 am 
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mpulsiv wrote:
Manufacturers have been moving away from QR's in last 2 seasons. I doubt we will see disc frames with QR's on 2018 frames. Same goes for post-mount (4 year old technology).


Ok that's what I was thinking also. Will wait for the 2018 models.
When does Specialized inform the dealers?

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