S-Works SL 2018

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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ProfessorChaos wrote:I want the "Superlight" frameset with EE rim brakes, CLX50 tubulars, eTAP, Aeroflys, Zipp Sprint stem, Quarq, and call it a day.
But it's not aerowenie ;)
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Swannie wrote:Just went to my lbs and after a phone call to Sram we are sure they will not offer dm brakes in their 2018 product range :?

I think i'm going to do as Katusha: use shimano and remove the logo.

DA9000 calipers will look better with Red than 9100s. I'd get the TRPs though. Don't Red levers pull less cable than 11spd Shimano levers? Like someone said, maybe TRP is optimized for this?

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by cycleboyco

Loving this thread, but it's also driving me a little crazy. I have a 2015 S-Works that I am tempted to just move the parts over to an Ultralight frame (DA 9070, S-Works Quarq crank, Roval 32CLX wheels, Enve cockpit). Would just need to replace the current ee brakes with the direct mount. Also considering waiting for the disc version, but would be "saving" money by utilizing my existing rim brake parts/wheels. The pressure of a making a decision based on the limited run of Ultralight frames doesn't help. Other thing holding me back is the setback post with no zero setback option available, at least right now. Could probably make it work, but saddle would be slammed all the way forward.

On the 730 gram frame weight, anyone know if that is for the Ultralight or is the Ultralight even a little lighter?

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Whenever I see a nice disc road bike like this the first thing that stands out is how clean it looks without brake calipers and cables sticking out. Then I see the disc rotors and that kinda kills the look. Who's gonna pioneer mini drum brakes that hide inside nearly normal size hubs?
Specialized future slogan #aestheticsareeverything

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by TobinHatesYou

I think spokes are uglier than disc rotors. Disc rotors still look like a modern implement to me. Spokes make me think of old Cadillac or wagon wheels.
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TobinHatesYou wrote:I think spoke are uglier than disc rotors. Disc rotors still look like a modern implement to me. spoke make me think of old Cadillac or wagon wheels.

Is there a reason Tri spoke is not more popular other than it was banned by UCI?

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It's heavier and less comfortable.

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Delorre wrote:
p42 wrote:Image


Please launch a vias disc frameset in similar colours :thumbup:

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by morganb

Delorre wrote:
Nefarious86 wrote:Problem is Tarmac will be a wait, so I'll buld a rim bike for now :)


Same here, tarmac sl6 disc is THE frame that ticks all the boxes for me, but, I'll probably have to wait until 2018. Not sure I'll have the patience...

Its the first bike that has me torn. I figure eventually disc will become so ubiquitous that to get a new race bike it will be the only option. I kind of wanted to wait for one more generation of road groups for the technology to develop a bit more, but this one is pulling me towards biting the bullet and starting to switch everything over. Then again a super light semi-aero frame is tempting on its own.

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I honestly don't think the current standards (12x100 TA, 12x142 TA, flat mount) are going to change anytime soon. TA interfaces may change slightly, but that won't cause wheel/hub compatibility issues, nor is it a big deal.

There's a really small chance that rear hub spacing will move to 148mm "Boost" on race-oriented road bikes.

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by smartyiak

Lelandjt wrote:Whenever I see a nice disc road bike like this the first thing that stands out is how clean it looks without brake calipers and cables sticking out....
Specialized future slogan #aestheticsareeverything


That's how I feel about e-shifting. I want Di/EPS/eTap...just b/c it looks so neat and clean.

This bike looks NICE...and discs look better than the ugliness of something like the Giant Propel, with that big chunk o' metal hanging on the back of the fork and cable and metal ferrule (or whatever it is) hanging out in the wind.

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by mbdurham17

ProfessorChaos wrote:I want the "Superlight" frameset with EE rim brakes, CLX50 tubulars, eTAP, Aeroflys, Zipp Sprint stem, Quarq, and call it a day.

This will be my exact build transferring over from my 16 S-Works Tarmac except FSA bars and Zipp 404 clinchers with 26 turbo cotton (may get some 303 NSW's) and find the EE's...cant wait

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by hack

Any updates on a non S-Works frameset option?

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by mbdurham17

cycleboyco wrote:
On the 730 gram frame weight, anyone know if that is for the Ultralight or is the Ultralight even a little lighter?


I have read numerous different articles with contradictory info but nothing showing definitlively ultralight weight vs standard or if 733 is the Ultralight version

From Specialized website:

A 733g frame weight and 13.6lb complete bike weight (Ultralight Version, size 56cm)

From Bike Exchange:

A 56cm SL6 Tarmac frame weighs in at 733g, a whopping 200g or almost 20% lighter than the previous Tarmac. And that figure can be further reduced by opting for the proprietary "Ultralight paint" process, which adds only 10g to the bare frame.

From Gran Fondo

In addition, the S-Works Ultralight uses a special paint that weighs only 10 g (!). The result is a 733 g frame in size 56 cm.

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by TobinHatesYou

Yeah just keep in mind the a typical two-tone paint job with masks and clear-coat will result in a that 733g frame weight ballooning to 830-850g. My 54cm Emonda SLR Disc frameset just came in. The frame (w/duotrap door) weighs 760g, significantly more than the 665g quoted for a 56cm 5g vaporcoat frame.

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