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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:12 am 
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Yeah just keep in mind the a typical two-tone paint job with masks and clear-coat will result in a that 733g frame weight ballooning to 830-850g. My 54cm Emonda SLR Disc frameset just came in. The frame (w/duotrap door) weighs 760g, significantly more than the 665g quoted for a 56cm 5g vaporcoat frame.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:57 am 
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Question: I ordered a Frameset in the Sagan special paint color. I was not expecting it to be the ultra light (as it is not explicit on the website) but a video on cycling weekly reviewed Sagan's bike with the same paint and said it was ultra light. Anyone knows?


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
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 Post subject: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:55 am 
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He's Sagan. If he wants a personal paint in ultralight config/ layup he probably can.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:18 am 
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flafonta wrote:
Question: I ordered a Frameset in the Sagan special paint color. I was not expecting it to be the ultra light (as it is not explicit on the website) but a video on cycling weekly reviewed Sagan's bike with the same paint and said it was ultra light. Anyone knows?


Yours will not be ultralight. Because a 56cm ultralight weighs ~733g, I'd expect a non-ultralight, complex paintjob like the Sagan livery to add 100-120g to that.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:09 am 
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This is why I went the most minimal colour option ;)

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:19 pm 
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Nefarious86 wrote:
This is why I went the most minimal colour option ;)

As the the new frame has direct mount calipers . Has anyone experience with other brands then shimano and campa ?

Heard of ee brakes and TRP but the ee brakes are very expensive . Experiences with any of both of them or others ?


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:08 am 
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This morning I weighed my framework of the tarmac 2018 s-works superstar sagan.

These are the "official" numbers :D

Frame 56: 883gr
seat post: 180gr
front fork: 341gr


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:31 am 
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Frame S-Works sagan superstar 56


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:54 am 
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alex01 wrote:
Frame S-Works sagan superstar 56


I've ordered the ultralight - but it looks much better in that colour, Especially with the black forks

share some pictures of the build too :)


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:18 am 
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alex01 wrote:
Frame S-Works sagan superstar 56
Boahhh


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:20 am 
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alex01 wrote:
This morning I weighed my framework of the tarmac 2018 s-works superstar sagan.

These are the "official" numbers :D

Frame 56: 883gr
seat post: 180gr
front fork: 341gr


Dang I was off by 30-50g on my paint estimate. I guess the metallic paints are quite heavy.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:20 am 
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alex01 wrote:
This morning I weighed my framework of the tarmac 2018 s-works superstar sagan.

These are the "official" numbers :D

Frame 56: 883gr
seat post: 180gr
front fork: 341gr


I suppose it's without headset or BB bearings, but with all other the alu bits (der hanger, bolts etc) ? Not bad at all given the extravagant paintjob :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:24 am 
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is it me, or have specialized quietly dropped the 733g claim on the 56cm ultralight ?

can't see it anymore on the website - plus all the stuff about picking the lightest frames and working them for 2 more hours etc...

now just says "under 800g" and talks about the paint job.

mmmm :?



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edit - it's still here: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/new-tarmac - but missing from the product pages. I wonder if they found it impossible to deliver them at that weight. "under 800g" is 10% heavier

edit 2 - https://www.specialized.com/us/en/men/b ... set/134251

sagan frameset also says "under 800g" which it obviously isn't ?


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:39 am 
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orange wrote:
is it me, or have specialized quietly dropped the 733g claim on the 56cm ultralight ?


You should start seeing pretty soon. I know the Ultralight built up bikes have started shipping and I assume the framesets are not far behind if they haven't already started shipping as well.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:58 am 
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pyrahna wrote:
orange wrote:
is it me, or have specialized quietly dropped the 733g claim on the 56cm ultralight ?


You should start seeing pretty soon. I know the Ultralight built up bikes have started shipping and I assume the framesets are not far behind if they haven't already started shipping as well.


my dealer (UK) is still saying November !


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