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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:41 pm 
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cycleboyco wrote:

On the 730 gram frame weight, anyone know if that is for the Ultralight or is the Ultralight even a little lighter?


I have read numerous different articles with contradictory info but nothing showing definitlively ultralight weight vs standard or if 733 is the Ultralight version

From Specialized website:

A 733g frame weight and 13.6lb complete bike weight (Ultralight Version, size 56cm)

From Bike Exchange:

A 56cm SL6 Tarmac frame weighs in at 733g, a whopping 200g or almost 20% lighter than the previous Tarmac. And that figure can be further reduced by opting for the proprietary "Ultralight paint" process, which adds only 10g to the bare frame.

From Gran Fondo

In addition, the S-Works Ultralight uses a special paint that weighs only 10 g (!). The result is a 733 g frame in size 56 cm.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:12 am 
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Yeah just keep in mind the a typical two-tone paint job with masks and clear-coat will result in a that 733g frame weight ballooning to 830-850g. My 54cm Emonda SLR Disc frameset just came in. The frame (w/duotrap door) weighs 760g, significantly more than the 665g quoted for a 56cm 5g vaporcoat frame.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:57 am 
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Question: I ordered a Frameset in the Sagan special paint color. I was not expecting it to be the ultra light (as it is not explicit on the website) but a video on cycling weekly reviewed Sagan's bike with the same paint and said it was ultra light. Anyone knows?


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 Post subject: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:55 am 
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He's Sagan. If he wants a personal paint in ultralight config/ layup he probably can.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:18 am 
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flafonta wrote:
Question: I ordered a Frameset in the Sagan special paint color. I was not expecting it to be the ultra light (as it is not explicit on the website) but a video on cycling weekly reviewed Sagan's bike with the same paint and said it was ultra light. Anyone knows?


Yours will not be ultralight. Because a 56cm ultralight weighs ~733g, I'd expect a non-ultralight, complex paintjob like the Sagan livery to add 100-120g to that.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:09 am 
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This is why I went the most minimal colour option ;)

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:19 pm 
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Nefarious86 wrote:
This is why I went the most minimal colour option ;)

As the the new frame has direct mount calipers . Has anyone experience with other brands then shimano and campa ?

Heard of ee brakes and TRP but the ee brakes are very expensive . Experiences with any of both of them or others ?


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:08 am 
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This morning I weighed my framework of the tarmac 2018 s-works superstar sagan.

These are the "official" numbers :D

Frame 56: 883gr
seat post: 180gr
front fork: 341gr


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:31 am 
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Frame S-Works sagan superstar 56


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:54 am 
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alex01 wrote:
Frame S-Works sagan superstar 56


I've ordered the ultralight - but it looks much better in that colour, Especially with the black forks

share some pictures of the build too :)


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:18 am 
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alex01 wrote:
Frame S-Works sagan superstar 56
Boahhh


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:20 am 
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alex01 wrote:
This morning I weighed my framework of the tarmac 2018 s-works superstar sagan.

These are the "official" numbers :D

Frame 56: 883gr
seat post: 180gr
front fork: 341gr


Dang I was off by 30-50g on my paint estimate. I guess the metallic paints are quite heavy.


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:20 am 
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alex01 wrote:
This morning I weighed my framework of the tarmac 2018 s-works superstar sagan.

These are the "official" numbers :D

Frame 56: 883gr
seat post: 180gr
front fork: 341gr


I suppose it's without headset or BB bearings, but with all other the alu bits (der hanger, bolts etc) ? Not bad at all given the extravagant paintjob :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:24 am 
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is it me, or have specialized quietly dropped the 733g claim on the 56cm ultralight ?

can't see it anymore on the website - plus all the stuff about picking the lightest frames and working them for 2 more hours etc...

now just says "under 800g" and talks about the paint job.

mmmm :?



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edit - it's still here: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/new-tarmac - but missing from the product pages. I wonder if they found it impossible to deliver them at that weight. "under 800g" is 10% heavier

edit 2 - https://www.specialized.com/us/en/men/b ... set/134251

sagan frameset also says "under 800g" which it obviously isn't ?


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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
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 Post subject: Re: S-Works SL 2018
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:39 am 
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orange wrote:
is it me, or have specialized quietly dropped the 733g claim on the 56cm ultralight ?


You should start seeing pretty soon. I know the Ultralight built up bikes have started shipping and I assume the framesets are not far behind if they haven't already started shipping as well.


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