Winter jacket choice

[Alexandre]

Hi all,
I’m facing to a dilemma, I’m looking for a winter jacket for temperatures around 0°C at the lowest and always humid (Paris area). I have to precise that I do not get cold easily from my upper body. I selected:
1. Assos Mille GT winter Ultraz (may be too warm ?)
2. Assos Mille GT winter (to me between a winter jacket and a long sleeve jersey, but is it warm enough below 3°C ?)
3. Castelli Perfetto RoS (I already have a Gabba with Nanoflex arm warmer, it is may be a non sense to have both ?)
4. Anything else ?
PS: purely subjective but I'm not a big fan of the Castelli Alpha RoS
Based on your experience, wich one would you go for ?

[kookie]

I have both Mille GT Winter Ultraz and Mille GT Winter.
Ultraz will be too warm for 0*C or warmer. I wear it at -5*C or colder.
So you can eliminate that one.

There is Rapha Pro Team Winter jacket (probably similar to the Castelli ROS).

[robertbb]

Something with Polartec Alpha direct lining.

[MarkoP]

Maap Apex 2.0 with the Maap deep winter base has kept me warm at -5 degrees.

(Feet and fingers are a different story)

[Mcdeez]

Rapha core winter jacket is awesome and a really reasonable price!

[Mocs123]

Gabilier Mistral ?

Gore Phantom?

[bikeboy1tr]

Craft Storm from a couple years ago and its good for right around zero.

[bikeboy1tr]

FFS

[Leon]

You will be fine with the Mille winter jacket. Just wear a thicker baselayer once it gets cold. I used the winter jacket with a summer baselayer yesterday at 4c at that was just right. So at 0c just use a winter baselayer. At least, that is what I do.

[Alexandre]

Thank you guys for all your suggestions,
You think the Perfetto is not warm enough or not needed if I already have a Gabba ?
I have a good opportunity at my local shop with the Mille GT winter and the Perfetto at the same price

[Tifosiphil]

I work at Le Col so take it with a pinch of salt but I've been alternating between the Hors Categorie 2 Jacket with the Alpha Direct lining which is good for really cold rides or the Pro Winter Jacket for rides 5-8C.

The Pro Winter Jacket is very similar to the Gabba with a membrane that has a windproof lining and is technically waterproof (or a very heavy shower). The new HC Jacket is great for 0-5C and you can just alternate a base layer as need be. Recently rode it in -2 (-8 with the windchill) with just a base layer and short sleeve jersey underneath, the Polartec Alpha is something else

[TobinHatesYou]

What didn't you like about the Alpha RoS? I have both the regular and the light version. The regular version is downright toasty at 0C.

[milanv]

I work at Le Col so take it with a pinch of salt but I've been alternating between the Hors Categorie 2 Jacket with the Alpha Direct lining which is good for really cold rides or the Pro Winter Jacket for rides 5-8C.

The Pro Winter Jacket is very similar to the Gabba with a membrane that has a windproof lining and is technically waterproof (or a very heavy shower). The new HC Jacket is great for 0-5C and you can just alternate a base layer as need be. Recently rode it in -2 (-8 with the windchill) with just a base layer and short sleeve jersey underneath, the Polartec Alpha is something else

Why you don't have more pieces with membranes, e. g. from Gore?

[Alexandre]

I just did not feel as good as in others (when tried in the shop) but if the Alpha is the best option, I'm sure I can be convinced

[OlieSimpson]

It might not be as fashionable as the other choices in the thread however I've been very impressed with the Van Rysel RCR Winter Xtreme https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/very-cold ... mc=8644566

Windproof, breathable and water-repellent and is rated down to -5 degrees. I've used it in 2 degree weather so far with just a base layer and it was loveley and warm. Fit's really well and doesn't flap in the wind.