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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:31 pm 
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I did not say Cipollini asks from its dealers to drill a hole. I just said that, from an engineer's point of view, that would not be unimaginable and certainly it would not more 'dangerous' than cutting a fork steerer or an integrated seatpost. People open holes in their frames to pass through di2 cables all the time. Not a problem at all.

I could agree with Seedster that Cipollini did not want to alter the mould in order to save money but that does not seem to be the case. I expressed my thoughts by presenting photos from two NK1K manuals but obvioulsy no one paid attention.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:26 pm 
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Calnago wrote:
kgt wrote:
Obviously one can guide the di2 cables throught the top tube or the down tube. It's not that there is one 'correct' way to do it. That's why there are these two options. You see that there is not a hole in the down tube either, just a cover that can be drilled or not. So a toptube or downtube hole is drilled by the LBS only after the rider decides what he prefers. No? What do the instructions following the frame say?

@kgt: Are you saying that Cippollini actually intentionally does not create certain holes for cable routing that may be necessary, and leaves that up to the dealer/customer to decide which routing to use and drill their frames accordingly? I don't know, I'm asking. But if that's the case, all I can say is Wow, that's a first to my knowledge. I've never known a manufacturer to endorse drilling a hole in their frames by anyone other than the manufacturer. That in itself is a huge Quality Control issue.


That's not what you seem to have said above, and certainly made no correction to that when I asked if that's what you were saying.
So they either forgot to drill a hole that should have been drilled, or as you were implying, expect it to be drilled "by the LBS only after the rider decides what he prefers".

In any case, I think @jwfinesse did the right thing in sending that particular frame back to where it came from.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:49 am 
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I was asking. "No? What do the instructions following the frame say?". I was not sure. After that I explained my point of view by presenting the NK1K manuals but you did not follow me either.

Anyway jwfinesse did the right think, I agree.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:11 am 
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kulivontot wrote:
Sorry man, if you wanted quality control, you should've bought the $54000 luxury edition. Anything less just won't cut it.

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wow, that looks so cheesy! :mrgreen: unbelievable.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:23 am 
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:-) LOL


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:39 am 
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reedplayer wrote:
kulivontot wrote:
Sorry man, if you wanted quality control, you should've bought the $54000 luxury edition. Anything less just won't cut it.

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wow, that looks so cheesy! :mrgreen: unbelievable.



What I find hard to believe on such a bike, is that with Di2 they can run electric cables virtually anywhere, and still, they manage to do it the worst looking way.
Come on, you spend so much on a bike, and there's no other way to have the cables then the hole for mechanic transmission?
ludacris...

A bike this expensive should look nothing but perfect... and this is not the case.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:42 pm 
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Lafolie wrote:
Been thinking about an NK1K frameset. Could any owners on her please let me know how the frame rides etc. Build quality and any niggles ? thanks very much


I saw that your question wasn't really answered so I thought I would give you my experiences with the frame.

As far as ride its quick, agile, and aggressive while still managing to be able to take on hills without much of an issue.
Power transfer is immediate. You will find that when you need that boost and push down on the pedals, the bike goes!

I haven't had any issues with my build quality. The NK1K is a bike that really needs to be seen in person to appreciate the attention to detail. Beautiful paint job and the angles and lines of the bike set it apart from the others on the market. As far as finish goes I prefer the gloss over matt, but either way it still looks good.

It's not the lightest aero frame, but sometimes the lighter frames can feel twitchy so I would say the NK1K weight feels about right.

Overall it's been coming up to a year for me and I still love riding it. I still love looking at it as well :)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:11 am 
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i sent an email to Cipollini support. Their reply was that the indentation is meant to be drilled to receive DI2 wires for the direct mount brakes frameset. For disk brakes frameset, the hole is already there. cant imagine myself drilling the $5000 frame! i will get the mechanic to do it


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