Ultegra update?

[Svetty]

But this is weight-weenies.......

[Hexsense]

TBH, i'll not really miss the 11-23. I've been running one (or something similar) since the days of 52/42 and 7 speed. So why would i *still* need the same top and bottom ratio when i now have *4* extra sprockets in there?
I can have nice ratio jumps across the block AND have two extra larger sprockets.......

Unfortunately i only realised this a week or so ago, and already have a couple of cassettes, really i should just have bitten the bullet and got the 11-28s.

I'm just old fashioned i suppose, and 28's look horrible on nice wheels. But i don't look at my wheels when i'm riding.

Ah well.

9 speed 11-19, 10 speed 11-21 and 11 speed 11-23 are for those users who want long straight block 11-19.
9 speed 11-21, 10 speed 11-23 and 11 speed 11-25 are the for those who forgo 18t between 17 and 19 for one lower gear.
9 speed 11-23, 10 speed 11-25 and 11 speed 11-28 are the for those who forgo 18t and 16t in range of 11-19 for even lower gear.

For me skip 18t is good and preferred as it is just another gear to shift pass from stop to rolling. But 16t missing is noticable (not that i can not live without one though, i'm fine without 16t too)

[ooo]

"11-25 are the for those who forgo 18t and 16t in range of 11-19 for even lower gear."
you mean 11-28 ?

"11-25 are the for those who forgo 18t between 17 and 19 for one lower gear."
11-25 for shimano, 11-26 for sram

[slake21]

found an italian shop that is selling R8000 groupset for €850

[snowdevlin]

found an italian shop that is selling R8000 groupset for €850

Never heard of the shop, any feedback on how trustworthy is it?

[stormur]

I bought once from them Bianchi city bike. In March. Delievred end of June. About packaging don't even ask.

Explanation was that bike goes to clients from Bianchi warehouse ( directly ) , so they have no influence on delivery time...

[snowdevlin]

I bought once from them Bianchi city bike. In March. Delievred end of June. About packaging don't even ask.

Explanation was that bike goes to clients from Bianchi warehouse ( directly ) , so they have no influence on delivery time...

Ops... awful service then...
Probably they're looking to sell now and ship whenever they receive..

Thanks!

[slake21]

found an italian shop that is selling R8000 groupset for €850

Never heard of the shop, any feedback on how trustworthy is it?

found them on ebay
it's the same price there, so if you buy from their ebay shop you'll be protected by ebay

[snowdevlin]

found an italian shop that is selling R8000 groupset for €850

Never heard of the shop, any feedback on how trustworthy is it?

found them on ebay
it's the same price there, so if you buy from their ebay shop you'll be protected by ebay

Their Facebook page says the group will be available on July 12th. In the meantime I've tried contacting and check the availability

[TurboKoo]

It's already available in some of the Nordic shops based on their instagram accounts. R8000

[slake21]

It's already available in some of the Nordic shops based on their instagram accounts. R8000

€720 is a pretty good price! and it might sell for even cheaper in countries whit lower VAT rates

[morrisond]

I just saw it in the flesh in Canada. It looks pretty good - it's a combo of Matte and glossy. Compared to 9100 which was beside it I don't think it looks any better or worse - just different, it would probably look better on Matte Frames with Matte Carbon wheels than 9100.

It does look really close to 9100 in terms of shape - hard to justify spending more on 9100.

[stormur]

found an italian shop that is selling R8000 groupset for €850

Never heard of the shop, any feedback on how trustworthy is it?

found them on ebay
it's the same price there, so if you buy from their ebay shop you'll be protected by ebay

I bought bike thru ebay... I complained, but seller sent to ebay working tracking number... so you're f...d not protected.

BTW they don't speak english anymore 3 sec after payment seriously.

I bought from them once, and it won't happened ever again. You can, it's free will, same as sharing your story with them here .

[snowdevlin]

found an italian shop that is selling R8000 groupset for €850

Never heard of the shop, any feedback on how trustworthy is it?

found them on ebay
it's the same price there, so if you buy from their ebay shop you'll be protected by ebay

I bought bike thru ebay... I complained, but seller sent to ebay working tracking number... so you're f...d not protected.

BTW they don't speak english anymore 3 sec after payment seriously.

I bought from them once, and it won't happened ever again. You can, it's free will, same as sharing your story with them here .

They failed to reply the questions I sent through their shop and eBay, so couldn't care less about them now.
Ultegra R8000 might be good and look good, but considering the time I'd have to wait and the price difference now, just bought dura ace instead...

[vinuneuro]

Anyone heard anything about 8070 Di2 disc?